1986 Golf 1.6 N/A Crank No Start

[ORCoaster]

Proper tools save time and knuckles

[92EcoDiesel Jetta]

i havent used AC in a long time. i started and drove the car today, the belt didnt squeal at all. checked the voltage while at idle and it read 14.6V no issues this time, i will drive to school today and see what happens, i bought a new belt today just in case.

14.6 at idle is ok, a little high actually. Check with another meter as it may be off. If you grab the alt fan and can turn it against the belt, it is too loose.

[jhax]

I just changed out the new belt. Going to drive it to work. Im pretty sure that old belt was on its last legs it was pretty stretched.

[dieseljunkie69]

I just changed out the new belt. Going to drive it to work. Im pretty sure that old belt was on its last legs it was pretty stretched.

Are you for real?? Why was this not the first thing questioned when you were told the belt was slipping???

[jhax]

Because upon first inspection it didnt look that bad but such is life, live and learn. I am almost positive everything that was replaced did need to be replaced anyway.

[dieseljunkie69]

Because upon first inspection it didnt look that bad but such is life, live and learn. I am almost positive everything that was replaced did need to be replaced anyway.

I am fairly positive as well from reading this thread.. haha

Congrats on having all new parts though??  

[jhax]

Like i said they were all needed, the glow plugs went out (new plugs), the constant cycling of the ignition over time caused the ignition switch and relay to go (would have happened anyway due to age), battery cables were shot and oxidized anyway, alternator may or may not have been good but it was original and at 150+k miles im sure it was tired anyway.

[8v-of-fury]

Eh, ya got it running now. NO harm no foul. dieseljunkie, welcome.. now calm your ass.

[ORCoaster]

With all those upgrades you should be good for at least another 150K.  Glad it is charging, starting and running as desired.

[jhax]

thank you all for all of your input and help, i definitely hope this thread can be of use to others in the future.

[jhax]

Hey all, Im bringing this one back from the dead so i didnt have to start a new thread. Some updates first, I got rid of the AC, all of it including the compressor. I swung the alternator down to where the compressor was and used the turnbuckle as a tensioner technique. I made a fast brake turn from the road I was on to a parking lot. Well this sheared the turn buckle, I purchased a new one and threw it in. I tightened the belt (new shorter belt to compensate for the lack of AC condenser) so it deflects 4-5 cm. Now for some reason the alternator isnt charging the battery. Prior to the turn buckle replacement, I had to occasionally tighten the belt because it wold squeal but once every couple weeks. The new turnbuckle is in and the belt is tight, the alt indicator will not turn off after the initial throttle blip. It turns off and comes on intermittently while driving, but will mostly stay on in the higher revs.
I was cruising in 5th today and downshifted to 4th and the light came on. So it's definitely intermittent. I have attached a video for your viewing pleasure. Towards the end is when I downshifted to 4th and the light stayed on. I have the non AC alternator pulley on the alternator giving the belt the correct distance and keeping it in line with all pulleys. No squealing and very little slack on the belt with the engine running. Any thoughts?

https://flic.kr/p/q1g9ZZ

8:20pm: Drove into town to pick up my friend, typical flickering and dull on state for the alternator indicator. Parked the car, ate dinner and drove back home. Same result a quarter way into the drive, after that, absolutely not light whatsoever on the way home. Up and down the rev range it charged. Pulled it into the driveway and measured voltage at idle, 13.15V. Mystery!?

[ORCoaster]

Your alternator is crying for a rebuild.  Brushes likely worn or a wire frayed due to turning incident perhaps? 

[jhax]

Very possible, however, I replaced my old alternator (I got at the beginning of this thread) with this one a couple months ago. They are both O'Reilly remanned specials, I had a warrenty on the old one so I got this one fo free. But it could be that these alternatlrs are just that sh*tty. I drove to work today (on I70) and it didnt give me any trouble at all untill I got onto the off ramp when the same crap started again. Ill take it to the auto parts store today or tomorrow and have them test it. Funny how easy it is to remove these things when you don't have any AC components in the way.

[srgtlord]

I would check the output of the alternator with a voltmeter. Also check the voltage of the blue exciter wire.

[TimpanogosSlim]

Might want to have the alt tested too. Neither my old nor new alts ever squealed

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