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August 07, 2011, 11:26:47 pm

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Lock up
« on: August 07, 2011, 11:26:47 pm »
Well, i was taking my 1.6td on a little road trip this weekend and after 100 miles stopped at a g station.

since it leaks some oil i put in a decent amount and left afterwards, as i was leaving after a stop sign it started smoking with A LOT of white smoke and would not let me accelerate past 5 MPH.

I quickly pulled over and shut the car off, after a bit I tried to start it up but it would bog down and die unless i gave it some pedal to the metal and it would continue to smoke but hardly run still

Is this some kind of broken injector problem? Or is it possible It just has way too much oil in it?
any help is appreciated to help me get going
thanks



Reply #1August 08, 2011, 01:20:23 am

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Re: Lock up
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2011, 01:20:23 am »
 Fuel starvation?
 Clear fuel line going into the pump?
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Reply #2August 08, 2011, 01:25:02 am

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Re: Lock up
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2011, 01:25:02 am »
how hot????

oil pressure reads???

to me smoke says it over heated... pistons seized in bore.. head abt to crack.. hot enough to seiz/spin a bearing even..

oil will not stop it (unless spun a bearing.. but then knock nock).. hell enough oil it will run on that vs fuel... and rev like hell when doing so...


Reply #3August 08, 2011, 08:11:54 am

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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2011, 08:11:54 am »
Timing belt jumped a tooth? Might still run but run like crap....

Reply #4August 08, 2011, 09:55:22 am

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Re: Lock up
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2011, 09:55:22 am »
How much oil is on the stick?

Reply #5August 08, 2011, 11:09:23 am

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Re: Lock up
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2011, 11:09:23 am »
how hot????

oil pressure reads???

to me smoke says it over heated... pistons seized in bore.. head abt to crack.. hot enough to seiz/spin a bearing even..

oil will not stop it (unless spun a bearing.. but then knock nock).. hell enough oil it will run on that vs fuel... and rev like hell when doing so...



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Reply #6August 08, 2011, 01:17:32 pm

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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2011, 01:17:32 pm »
Fuel lines are fine.

I'm about to go find out how much oil,

I was also thinking timing could have jumped a tooth or two because it does run pretty rough,

also coolant and oil haven't mixed so i don't think it was too hot

Reply #7August 08, 2011, 02:45:50 pm

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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2011, 02:45:50 pm »
upon further inspection one half of my timing belt seems to have ridges in it?



The timing belt only has about 1k miles on it so i'm not sure what happend

Reply #8August 08, 2011, 03:16:35 pm

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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2011, 03:16:35 pm »
Too tight?  Is that blue on the gear teeth of the cam?  Might be checking the lower crank pulley for garbage on it from the last timing belt.  Maybe wrapped something on there. 

Reply #9August 08, 2011, 03:23:21 pm

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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2011, 03:23:21 pm »
I don't think it is too tight, I figured it was rubbing on the cover because the ridges only appear on the one half of the belt.

as for garbage i didn't really see anything

Reply #10August 08, 2011, 10:01:53 pm

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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2011, 10:01:53 pm »
changed the oil, no sign of coolant so i dont think it overheated
re timed the car still ran the same, it'll bog down and die unless it's revving at like 3 grand.

took out all injectors and they looked fine, but did not take them apart, is there an easy way to test them?
also new fuel filter so i don't think its clogged. but i think its not getting enough fuel to idle.

Reply #11August 08, 2011, 10:17:14 pm

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Re: Lock up
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2011, 10:17:14 pm »
could always remove the piping turn it upside down and install injectors on them.  Cover with towel and crank engine looking at each one under a jar or glass.  Takes work and a couple people but it is a way to do it.

Reply #12August 08, 2011, 10:32:25 pm

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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2011, 10:32:25 pm »
This would test all of them at once correct? and they all should be shooting fuel?

Reply #13August 08, 2011, 11:03:09 pm

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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2011, 11:03:09 pm »
Yep, if you cover them all you can see the towel get wet at each one but your spray pattern is unknown.  You could cup each one and have the towel underneath to soak up the mess.  Just remember that there is a lot of shaking going on and fuel on rad hoses and stuff rubber is not a good idea.  So use caution here.  Goggles might be needed, if plastic cups are used they may go flying off and fuel goes everywhere.

Reply #14August 09, 2011, 02:38:16 pm

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« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2011, 02:38:16 pm »
okay so i took your advice and tried testing the injectors that way,
this is what my setup looked like and i cycled through all 4 injectors




everyone looked like it was spraying fuel, does this mean that they are all most likely good?
if so i'm out of ideas on whats wrong with my car

 

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