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Reply #45August 15, 2011, 02:53:51 am

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Re: Lock up
« Reply #45 on: August 15, 2011, 02:53:51 am »
Okay but the fuel was shooting OUT of the fitting where the same rubber hoses connect to on the IP, periodically
I was under the impression this would be a vacuum not a fuel source

Reply #46August 15, 2011, 07:32:43 am

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« Reply #46 on: August 15, 2011, 07:32:43 am »
no that is the return for the pump as well. The rubber lines between the injectors T into the return there.
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Reply #47August 17, 2011, 04:01:24 pm

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« Reply #47 on: August 17, 2011, 04:01:24 pm »
Okay tried the jerry can today, but the car ran the same.

Does that most likely mean its an internal problem (rods, piston, hg?)


Reply #48August 17, 2011, 04:12:04 pm

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Re: Lock up
« Reply #48 on: August 17, 2011, 04:12:04 pm »
i would lean towards a fueling issue.

did you run the can straight to the pump, or thru the fuel filter?
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Reply #49August 17, 2011, 04:28:15 pm

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« Reply #49 on: August 17, 2011, 04:28:15 pm »
bypassed the filter so straight to the pump.

Is there a possibility for a clogged return line that could effect it?

Reply #50August 17, 2011, 09:36:55 pm

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Re: Lock up
« Reply #50 on: August 17, 2011, 09:36:55 pm »
Fuel should be cycling in and out of the pump at a good clip at idle.  Now you can't seem to get it to idle well so that might be hard to determine.  But at full on run it would really be cycling through the pump.  So I don't see how a restriction would be possible.  Oh,  Have you pulled the out bolt off and made sure that screen in the insert is clean.  Back flush the out fitting using some fuel and and a short piece of tubing.  Maybe the piece that normally goes between the filter and the pump.  Put the out bolt in the fitting and plug the little nipple with a rubber cap and see what comes out. 

I inspect using a mirror and the sun.  Small hand held one to shine light into it and look from the side.  I have picked little pieces of crap out of there in the past.  Some old O ring or the like. 

Reply #51August 18, 2011, 02:29:39 am

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Fuel should be cycling in and out of the pump at a good clip at idle.  Now you can't seem to get it to idle well so that might be hard to determine.  But at full on run it would really be cycling through the pump.  So I don't see how a restriction would be possible.  Oh,  Have you pulled the out bolt off and made sure that screen in the insert is clean.  Back flush the out fitting using some fuel and and a short piece of tubing.  Maybe the piece that normally goes between the filter and the pump.  Put the out bolt in the fitting and plug the little nipple with a rubber cap and see what comes out. 

I inspect using a mirror and the sun.  Small hand held one to shine light into it and look from the side.  I have picked little pieces of crap out of there in the past.  Some old O ring or the like. 

What bolt are you talking about? the one by the injector lines?

Reply #52August 18, 2011, 09:27:38 am

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« Reply #52 on: August 18, 2011, 09:27:38 am »
Yes, that bolt on top that has the little injector hose on the left side and the bigger hose that returns to the tank.  Mine is actually stamped with the word OUT on it.  That way bonehead mechanics like me won't put it in the front of the pump and restrict their inflow.  They can be interchanged.  There is a screen up in there and it is peened in with three marks to keep it in so just back flush it, brush it out or what ever to be sure the flow it not overly restricted. 

Reply #53August 22, 2011, 03:42:34 pm

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« Reply #53 on: August 22, 2011, 03:42:34 pm »
I checked out the little filter you were talking about but it looked pretty clean nothing looked clogged in it.

I also took the top off the injection pump to see if a spring or something might of broke but everything looks good also.
I'm not sure what else to try to get this turd running

Reply #54August 22, 2011, 04:00:11 pm

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« Reply #54 on: August 22, 2011, 04:00:11 pm »
Also checked my exhaust to see if it was clogged, but it was not

Reply #55August 22, 2011, 04:44:22 pm

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Re: Lock up
« Reply #55 on: August 22, 2011, 04:44:22 pm »
is your car turbo charged? is your turbo actually working? is the air filter clogged?
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Reply #56August 22, 2011, 04:47:20 pm

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« Reply #56 on: August 22, 2011, 04:47:20 pm »
Yes it is.
The filter is not clogged
and I the turbo spins freely if i use my hand so it is not seized or anything,

Reply #57August 22, 2011, 06:50:05 pm

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« Reply #57 on: August 22, 2011, 06:50:05 pm »
I think a compression test would be a good next step
Tyler

Reply #58August 22, 2011, 10:19:33 pm

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Re: Lock up
« Reply #58 on: August 22, 2011, 10:19:33 pm »
Going back to this statement from page 3:

"also the symptoms are all the same the car will start but only when its at full throttle and it'll be smoking white but if i put it into first it'll only go about 5 MPH, after i drained the oil i started it up and the same symptoms, after i retimed it the same symptoms"

This sounds like a timing issue to me, white smoke is retarded, timing speak, not operator.  But he says he has done it many times and only changed it a tad off recommended.  If you have set the cam and loosened the cam pulley, set the IP with the pin and have it on TDC solid on what could go wrong?  The only thing that has ever caught me up is the tightening of the idler pulley.  At times the cam pulley does not turn freely on the tapered shaft and it puts tension on the cam stop.  So even though I think it is timed well it is off slightly by a few degrees. Is that the problem? 

This is driving me nuts and I don't even have the trouble at hand.

Good luck solving it. 

Reply #59August 23, 2011, 12:47:34 am

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« Reply #59 on: August 23, 2011, 12:47:34 am »
I'm just gonna pull the head tomorrow, and check it out.

I'll post up what i find, if i find anything

 

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