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#180
by
DVST8R
on 16 Mar, 2008 09:23
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dave ill be down at the coast this sunday and monday. Any chance i can pop by to say hello and see this car??
Call him. Or just goto the shop, he is always around. It is the building right behind the greyhound bus station in abby.
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#181
by
Giles@PerformanceDiesel
on 16 Mar, 2008 09:37
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Yes i had read that it was borrowed from Malone.
since then i have made even better pumps!!
when you do send his pump in, pls leave all the settings alone
so i can run it on the Test Stand and measure what fuel you're
running to rach that magic 200HP!
look forward to new projects too.
We're currently working on some TDI nozzles that will flow way more
fuel and help the M-TDI projects that allot of people are asking for.
Devor is trying to run a big turbo on his and we're running out of fuel
with his stock and modded injectors.
i'll keep everyone up to date.
Giles
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#182
by
subsonic
on 16 Mar, 2008 09:56
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Kind of a thread jack, but on the same line of thought and interest.
Giles,
I am a few months behind Dave right now on my Franken build. They are going to be very similar. He is using Malones old 9mm pump. I also have one of your 9mm pumps that was done less than a year ago. IIRC you told me mine was twice the normal fuel and no rpm cut off. Did I remember that correctly? Would any of your improvements be in this newer pump? Without giving it up, could you explain what some of these improvements might be, and how they would come into play on the build?
I will be following in Daves tire marks, so I am interested in any differences that may effect end results.
Thanks, Jim
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#183
by
DVST8R
on 16 Mar, 2008 14:04
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I just got off the phone with Dave. He put it on the rollers and even with 30psi + he couldn't do any more then the 193whp. He is officially out of fuel.
He was going to try subsonic's 1.9 injectors, with the merc nozzles, but forgot the 1.9 injector lines at home so he went and got those only to realize he was out of heat shields. He is going to try to round some up and put it on the rollers again this afternoon.
The only good thing about it to this point is that the FINALLY got some video today!!! Now we just have to wait for Brody to get it up.
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#184
by
935racer
on 16 Mar, 2008 14:24
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dave ill be down at the coast this sunday and monday. Any chance i can pop by to say hello and see this car??
Thomas, just give a call, I'll be here most of today, don't know how late, maybe till 6, maybe till midnight, and I'll be around all day tomorrow, come by and we'll throw your jetta on the rollers, I'll take you for a rip in the death trap as well :twisted:
Trying to dig up some heatshields for a dyno with subsonics injectors for later today, so far not looking good, might have to wait for monday.
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#185
by
935racer
on 16 Mar, 2008 14:47
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Yes i had read that it was borrowed from Malone.
since then i have made even better pumps!!
when you do send his pump in, pls leave all the settings alone
so i can run it on the Test Stand and measure what fuel you're
running to rach that magic 200HP!
look forward to new projects too.
We're currently working on some TDI nozzles that will flow way more
fuel and help the M-TDI projects that allot of people are asking for.
Devor is trying to run a big turbo on his and we're running out of fuel
with his stock and modded injectors.
i'll keep everyone up to date.
Giles
Yeah I'll have to send this pump out soon I guess, I am out of fuel. Hopefully you get Davors fueling delt with, I have been consulting that project for quite some time now!
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#186
by
subsonic
on 16 Mar, 2008 14:57
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I really hope they help out Dave. They
must put out more fuel than stock. Christ, they are for a 3.0 liter! Bummer about the 1.9 lines and heat shields
I will be checking for updates all throughout the day on Monday. Give it hell.
Jim
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#187
by
Benjamin
on 16 Mar, 2008 15:18
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very nice result so far :shock:
the 193whp is with a 12mm and its feuled out, omg :shock: now its time for the 14mm?
ow, did it smoke on/offboost? what EGT's was it running?
Greetz, Benjamin
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#188
by
RabbitJockey
on 16 Mar, 2008 17:09
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i thought it was with a 9mm?
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#189
by
jtanguay
on 16 Mar, 2008 17:18
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i thought it was with a 9mm?
yea i thought Dave didn't install the 12mm yet?
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#190
by
DVST8R
on 16 Mar, 2008 17:22
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very nice result so far :shock:
the 193whp is with a 12mm and its feuled out, omg :shock: now its time for the 14mm?
ow, did it smoke on/offboost? what EGT's was it running?
Greetz, Benjamin
It is a 9mm, one of the original Giles pumps from back in the day. I think/hope Giles has a few more tricks up his sleeve now for coaxing even more out of the 9mm pumps. I hope that we can get at least 200 - 215 out of the 9mm. I know I have seen guys make 440whp+ out of 12mm pumps (no not on vw's)
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#191
by
burnt_servo
on 16 Mar, 2008 22:22
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with out knowing what the fuel pin looks like , would it make a difference if he either removed the fuel pin , or removed the spring holding the fuel pin up ......
basicly something similar to the removing the afc lever that many of the cummins guys are doing for tractor pulls .
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#192
by
Benjamin
on 17 Mar, 2008 00:57
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Whooaaa! so much feul from only a 9mm, thats crazy Giles!
:shock:
Greetz, Benjamin
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#193
by
subsonic
on 17 Mar, 2008 07:03
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Just thinking, if the pump truely has hit it's max point of fuel delivery, nothing will make it deliver more unless Giles mods it further. I think the bigger nozzles and different injectors will definetly have a impact though.
They will be able to put out a greater amount of fuel earlier in the run. I think the dyno will show a steeper/ faster rise in hp. I do not know if they will produce greater hp though.
I think, again if the pump is truely maxed out, that besides the bigger nozzles, the next gains are going to come from increased efficiencies.
The tubular manifold will help flow, and turbo spool. Ceramic coating the pistons and the exhaust ports in the head will help the efficiency of the engine. Perhaps these things will help the burn to be more complete and eeek out that little extra bit of fuel that may not be completely burning.
The only other thing I can think of would be to try and lighten some of the rotating mass. That and pehaps the performance cam.
Look forward to seeing the dyno run results today.
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#194
by
RabbitJockey
on 17 Mar, 2008 14:19
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i wanna see what it does in the quarter this car should be able to do 13s. with 12s in sight, very encouraging to say the least.