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Reply #105December 10, 2014, 02:11:09 pm

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« Reply #105 on: December 10, 2014, 02:11:09 pm »
Efficiency is one thing, but don't forget the turbine side is a restriction. Allowing more exhaust to bypass the turbine (therefore slightly reducing intake pressure) lets the engine pump out exhaust more easily.

I understand what you're saying -- that's a good point.   

Intuitively, I can't imagine we're getting close to the mass flow limits of the turbine, based on Alcaid's experience with an HE211W at 173 whp.  That said, it's really a question of system efficiency, i.e., all the components working together.  If I had the resources, I'd love to be able to plot hp vs. boost using a dyno to see if we're past the knee in the curve and reaching a point of diminishing returns -- that would be an interesting science project.
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Reply #106December 10, 2014, 02:12:20 pm

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« Reply #106 on: December 10, 2014, 02:12:20 pm »
An exhaust manifold pressure gauge would show what is happening better than just about anything.
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Reply #107December 10, 2014, 02:34:08 pm

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« Reply #107 on: December 10, 2014, 02:34:08 pm »
Intuitively, I can't imagine we're getting close to the mass flow limits of the turbine, based on Alcaid's experience with an HE211W at 173 whp.

That was the older HE211W design, the HE200WG you have did 205whp on a 1.6TD ;)
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Reply #108December 10, 2014, 05:17:21 pm

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« Reply #108 on: December 10, 2014, 05:17:21 pm »
Looks great!  You have a lot more space with that intake manifold.  The middle bolts on my G60 manifold are nearly impossible to access with the turbo mounted.

PD 150 with a EGR delete pipe from Darkside Developments.

I'm hoping that boost pipe fits under the hood.
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Reply #109December 10, 2014, 06:27:00 pm

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« Reply #109 on: December 10, 2014, 06:27:00 pm »
Intuitively, I can't imagine we're getting close to the mass flow limits of the turbine, based on Alcaid's experience with an HE211W at 173 whp.

That was the older HE211W design, the HE200WG you have did 205whp on a 1.6TD ;)

god damn, i may need to buy one for my aaz next year haha.  what was the pump?
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Reply #110December 11, 2014, 03:03:48 am

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« Reply #110 on: December 11, 2014, 03:03:48 am »
Intuitively, I can't imagine we're getting close to the mass flow limits of the turbine, based on Alcaid's experience with an HE211W at 173 whp.

That was the older HE211W design, the HE200WG you have did 205whp on a 1.6TD ;)

god damn, i may need to buy one for my aaz next year haha.  what was the pump?

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Reply #111December 12, 2014, 10:30:00 pm

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« Reply #111 on: December 12, 2014, 10:30:00 pm »
it fits

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Reply #112December 14, 2014, 08:19:25 am

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« Reply #112 on: December 14, 2014, 08:19:25 am »
nice!
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Reply #113December 19, 2014, 12:57:49 am

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« Reply #113 on: December 19, 2014, 12:57:49 am »
I traced the cummins dp flange into CAD, then modded it a little so I can just weld a round 2.5" tube right to it.





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Reply #114December 19, 2014, 01:11:13 am

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« Reply #114 on: December 19, 2014, 01:11:13 am »
I have a slightly used HE200WG if anyone is interested, less than 300 miles on it but my friend is changing it out for a compound setup.

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Reply #115December 19, 2014, 05:21:03 am

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« Reply #115 on: December 19, 2014, 05:21:03 am »
I am really interested as that would solve my MTDI jeep issue of making a controller for the 2256v I have...Let me know if he doesn't sell it in the next month. Christmas and all.

Reply #116January 17, 2015, 05:10:47 pm

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« Reply #116 on: January 17, 2015, 05:10:47 pm »


11mm pump built by Dieselmeken in Sweden, 120cc of fuel on that one.
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hey there guys so i have been out of this for a while now where mine actually blew up... i have low compresson and alot of blow by in my intake and crank case. lots of oil going everywhere along with antifreeze boiling over. so rebuild time again :(  when i got my pump back i believe giles got me 121 cc of fuel but i cant really remeber but that gives me good hope and im glad to see alot of people interested in this post besides me. its soon time to start rebuilding spring is just around the corner and 2015 is going to be a good and smoky year for me i hope. there will be alot of photos as i plan on making a beast this year
When that turbo hits full boost you will forget all about the work to get you there, I promise It's pretty similar to women giving birth... - Alcaid

Reply #117January 17, 2015, 05:12:02 pm

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« Reply #117 on: January 17, 2015, 05:12:02 pm »
also when you say it made 205hp what did it make for toruqe?
When that turbo hits full boost you will forget all about the work to get you there, I promise It's pretty similar to women giving birth... - Alcaid

Reply #118January 17, 2015, 05:33:23 pm

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« Reply #118 on: January 17, 2015, 05:33:23 pm »
That 173whp and 204whp you are talking about its my car :D
Alcaid I tink the 204whp was With Holset HE221wg don't remember, but I tink so ???

PS. my english writing are bad (Norwegians) :P
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Reply #119January 17, 2015, 05:49:01 pm

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« Reply #119 on: January 17, 2015, 05:49:01 pm »
That's alright my English is bad to and I'm English haha! But anyways I love that car it's whicked I really want to see a good video of it driving!! Any idea what your made for torque on the dyno?
When that turbo hits full boost you will forget all about the work to get you there, I promise It's pretty similar to women giving birth... - Alcaid