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Reply #165March 01, 2008, 05:53:17 am

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« Reply #165 on: March 01, 2008, 05:53:17 am »
That does not bode well for me then. :(   My set up is going to be almost the same as he has.  I am going with a smaller turbo, the Merc .48.  I guess keeping the boost down is going to be a must.  I'll sure be interested in what he finds when he opens it up.
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Reply #166March 01, 2008, 06:04:38 am

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« Reply #166 on: March 01, 2008, 06:04:38 am »
Get your rods polished and heat treated.
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Reply #167March 01, 2008, 08:39:31 am

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« Reply #167 on: March 01, 2008, 08:39:31 am »
Quote from: "subsonic"
That does not bode well for me then. :(   My set up is going to be almost the same as he has.  I am going with a smaller turbo, the Merc .48.  I guess keeping the boost down is going to be a must.  I'll sure be interested in what he finds when he opens it up.


Iirc Dave was racing and it was rpm under full load that killed the rod, like 6000+rpm at full load. That merc .48 is a lot smaller then the t3/t4 60trim .63 that Dave is running. Regardless the rod shot peening and polishing would be a good idea, or finding some h-beam 4340 rods would be ideal. Dave is also running main studs.

I would call Dave before you put it together and get his recommendations. Remember this as well the key to the big numbers that Dave got was mostly from the port work in the head. :wink:
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Reply #168March 01, 2008, 09:25:32 am

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« Reply #168 on: March 01, 2008, 09:25:32 am »
Yep, I am working with Dave on this.  I may end up buying the current intake/exhaust manifolds, DP, and IC plumbing from his setup.  I sent him two new 1.9 heads. One for him in trade for him doing the port work on mine.  I  also have the ARP main studs, head studs and con rod bolts.  Pistons should be back from Swain tech this week.  I have been looking on line for info on polishing rods.  Beside from the links that showed a hot blonde going to work on a guys tool :lol: , the links say it will help.  From there, though there appears to be a split.  Some said to heat treat, others said to shot peen to return the surface strength.  Opinions?  Anyone know how much stronger the rod will be?  Is it quantifiable?
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1985 VW Golf 5-spd, 4-door, 1.6NA  Bought from orig. owner in Savannah with 42,000 miles.
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1980 VW Rabbit LS 5-spd, 4-door 1.6NA almost 450,000miles  RIP

Reply #169March 01, 2008, 10:05:10 am

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« Reply #169 on: March 01, 2008, 10:05:10 am »
chrome plate the rods!
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Reply #170March 01, 2008, 11:02:58 am

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« Reply #170 on: March 01, 2008, 11:02:58 am »
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Hey Duane, manifold is from my friends over at kinetic motorsports. If you are in need of one this manifold will be for sale soon along with this downpipe because I will be going with a tubular manifold.

ahh that would be great! what populare turbos work with that manifold?
i'd like to get one of your intakes also!
send me a P.M. on what your thinking ?
thanks Duane


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 i thought i was in line for his downpipe and exaust manifold?
well either way let me know whats going on here?
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Reply #171March 01, 2008, 12:39:23 pm

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« Reply #171 on: March 01, 2008, 12:39:23 pm »
Brody, finally got the editing done on the first bit of the Open House Video for the new Passenger shop.























































And here it is: http://millerperformancecars.com/images/stories/Videos/OpenHouse.wmv  :P
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Reply #172March 01, 2008, 03:01:08 pm

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« Reply #172 on: March 01, 2008, 03:01:08 pm »
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Quote from: "blkboostedtruck"
Quote from: "935racer"
Hey Duane, manifold is from my friends over at kinetic motorsports. If you are in need of one this manifold will be for sale soon along with this downpipe because I will be going with a tubular manifold.

ahh that would be great! what populare turbos work with that manifold?
i'd like to get one of your intakes also!
send me a P.M. on what your thinking ?
thanks Duane


subsonic
 i thought i was in line for his downpipe and exaust manifold?
well either way let me know whats going on here?
Duane


PM sent.
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"Making the jump NA to TD" slow but sure.

1980 VW Rabbit LS 5-spd, 4-door 1.6NA almost 450,000miles  RIP

Reply #173March 01, 2008, 03:17:09 pm

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« Reply #173 on: March 01, 2008, 03:17:09 pm »
resolution P.M. sent back to subsonic
injector rebuilds call  414-840-1395 for faster service not on line much!
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'81 2dr n/a 1.6 diesel rabbit 8"lift 260K R.I.P.
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'81 caddy 1.9 turbo diesel
'82 caddy gas 1.8 G60
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Reply #174March 03, 2008, 09:35:58 pm

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« Reply #174 on: March 03, 2008, 09:35:58 pm »
i love viggens
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Reply #175March 05, 2008, 06:42:08 pm

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« Reply #175 on: March 05, 2008, 06:42:08 pm »
bump, bump, bump it up, more pics/video
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Reply #176March 15, 2008, 03:11:00 pm

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« Reply #176 on: March 15, 2008, 03:11:00 pm »
Hey guys

Great to see such a powerful project, i haven't heard anything about
the 12 or 14mm head you want me to install?

200WHP is fantastic too.

let me know what else i can do.

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Reply #177March 15, 2008, 04:18:52 pm

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« Reply #177 on: March 15, 2008, 04:18:52 pm »
The 14mm head is still sitting all wrapped up and pretty on the shelf. I picked it up held it admired it. Dave said he is saving it for the built bottom end.

At this point we are still trying to work out this setup, and I think that it has enough so that with the bigger injectors it will break 200whp. If we could find those dieselious nozzles, it might have enough for 220whp.

Giles in case you didn't read the whole thread, this is the same pump that you built for Malone almost 3 years ago.

*** I updated this on another thread the H-beam rods thread, but I will update it here too ***

Dave's alternator bracket failed taking out the water pump. It got a little warm, so as a precaution he pulled the head, and everything looks good, NO BENT RODS!!! one valve nicked a piston, but wasn't bent, not sure of the cause as it does have HD valve springs in it, and it was only the one, regardless he cleaned it up and put it back together.

Dave has also Machined an anti surge compressor housing for the T4oE that he is running, and is able to get a full 32psi+ without surge now!! Compared to 24psi ish previously. He has to get a heavier spring in the external gate though as it flutters above 32psi. He is trying to get it on the dyno this weekend with 36psi, and a before and after with the other injectors, this should push it well past the 200whp goal. Keeping my fingers crossed, and wishing I could be down there.


On an aside, Giles I have a Cummins VE pump, that will need to be FULLY worked over here this summer.  :wink:
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Reply #178March 15, 2008, 05:42:03 pm

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« Reply #178 on: March 15, 2008, 05:42:03 pm »
dave ill be down at the coast this sunday and monday.  Any chance i can pop by to say hello and see this car??
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Reply #179March 15, 2008, 09:02:05 pm

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« Reply #179 on: March 15, 2008, 09:02:05 pm »
I can hear it.  Yep, that sounds like some new dyno numbers coming down the road.  210? 215? :twisted:
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1985 VW Golf 5-spd, 4-door, 1.6NA  Bought from orig. owner in Savannah with 42,000 miles.
"Making the jump NA to TD" slow but sure.

1980 VW Rabbit LS 5-spd, 4-door 1.6NA almost 450,000miles  RIP