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July 24, 2009, 06:40:42 pm

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will this head fit?
« on: July 24, 2009, 06:40:42 pm »
i have a 1.6td engine in my vw caddy, engine code 1v. i have been told the 1.9td head is better to have. in my local scrapyard there is a seat cordoba estate with a 1.9 tdi engine.. however it is a manual fuel injection?

will this fit my engine?

not sure on the engine code as i couldnt see it, but its either 1z/AHU if its the 90bhp or AFN/AVG if its 110 bhp..

all info is appreciated :)

Reply #1July 24, 2009, 07:06:39 pm

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Re: will this head fit?
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2009, 07:06:39 pm »
Although the heads are dimensionally similar the design of a TDI head is completely different than an IDI head... here's a thread with some cross-sections that may help explain the differences:

http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=20109.0
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Reply #2July 25, 2009, 08:20:16 am

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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2009, 08:20:16 am »
if it had a manual pump i doubt it was a tdi.  what did the valve cover look like.
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Reply #3July 26, 2009, 04:49:46 am

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Re: will this head fit?
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2009, 04:49:46 am »
the rocker cover and head looked pretty much the same as my 1.6 td, but if you look here..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEAT_C%C3%B3rdoba

and scroll down to the table, its the seat cordoba estate (vario) and it lists that as a tdi? ???

Reply #4July 27, 2009, 02:15:24 am

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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2009, 02:15:24 am »
in other words, if its a TDI, then the head will not even come close to working on a 1.6.

Reply #5July 27, 2009, 08:49:04 am

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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2009, 08:49:04 am »
the rocker cover and head looked pretty much the same as my 1.6 td, but if you look here..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEAT_C%C3%B3rdoba

and scroll down to the table, its the seat cordoba estate (vario) and it lists that as a tdi? ???

Remember, Wikipedia is not pure fact, but the impressions of the author of any given definition. A detail like this could easily be wrong on Wikipedia.

The question is, the injection pump - is it simply mechanical ? With your valve covers looking the same, I doubt it could be a TDI.

Reply #6July 27, 2009, 10:29:09 am

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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2009, 10:29:09 am »
yeh it is mechanical

Reply #7July 30, 2009, 10:08:50 am

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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2009, 10:08:50 am »
I recall first gen TDi's were mechanical in the mkiii...
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Reply #8July 30, 2009, 02:04:34 pm

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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2009, 02:04:34 pm »
so does that mean it will fit?

Reply #9July 30, 2009, 02:20:22 pm

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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2009, 02:20:22 pm »
I recall first gen TDi's were mechanical in the mkiii...

i have never heard anyone talk about a mechanical mk2 VW tdi. that engine would be worth its weight in gold. people wouldnt have to build an M-TDI anymore. and besides, VW mk2's were only made until late 92. they didnt even start producing the TDI until like 96 or 97? and that is late mk3 and mk4 territory there. are you sure you arent dealing with an AAZ?
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Reply #10July 30, 2009, 02:25:33 pm

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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2009, 02:25:33 pm »
thats what i was just about to say. thanks for finishing my thought process andrew.  ;D

Reply #11July 30, 2009, 09:05:08 pm

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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2009, 09:05:08 pm »
I recall first gen TDi's were mechanical in the mkiii...

i have never heard anyone talk about a mechanical mk2 VW tdi. that engine would be worth its weight in gold. people wouldnt have to build an M-TDI anymore. and besides, VW mk2's were only made until late 92. they didnt even start producing the TDI until like 96 or 97? and that is late mk3 and mk4 territory there. are you sure you arent dealing with an AAZ?

Note this says mk3 here. ;)
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Reply #12July 30, 2009, 11:25:09 pm

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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2009, 11:25:09 pm »
I recall first gen TDi's were mechanical in the mkiii...

i have never heard anyone talk about a mechanical mk2 VW tdi. that engine would be worth its weight in gold. people wouldnt have to build an M-TDI anymore. and besides, VW mk2's were only made until late 92. they didnt even start producing the TDI until like 96 or 97? and that is late mk3 and mk4 territory there. are you sure you arent dealing with an AAZ?

Note this says mk3 here. ;)

i swear it said mkii earlier. swear to god. maybe my eyes missed the extra i.

Reply #13July 31, 2009, 02:13:33 am

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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2009, 02:13:33 am »
so will it fit?

Reply #14July 31, 2009, 08:28:32 am

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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2009, 08:28:32 am »
sounds like its an AAZ engine mate, i got my old AAZ out of a seat toledo

did it look any thing like this?