Author Topic: Dynoed my NA Golf with a Giles pump!! Dyno POSTED (Read 36943 times)

fuslit · « **Reply #30 on:** June 18, 2008, 01:45:52 pm »

That's an impressive difference in hp and torque.

-Todd

Vincent Waldon · « **Reply #31 on:** June 18, 2008, 02:17:58 pm »

Quote from: "Vincent Waldon"

36 (at the wheels) + 30% = 48 hp

What will be really really different is the power past 4000 RPM... she's gonna be an Energizer bunny and keep going and going and going.... ;-)

Does that graph really say 48.73 hp at the wheels with the new pump ??

And, does the power keep going after 4000 RPM ??

:wink:

saurkraut · « **Reply #32 on:** June 18, 2008, 02:57:06 pm »

We're the pumps both in the same state of repair? IE an old bagged out , leaking stock pump Vrs a freashly rebuilt Super Pump?

burn_your_money · « **Reply #33 on:** June 18, 2008, 03:06:27 pm »

The car is 100% bone stock. I haven't done a single thing to it (yet) There are definitly more gains to be had with this engine

On to the videos!

This is the first run with the stock pump

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVGRvUUv1wQ

This is the next run, focusing on the RPM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7Daii4QmiI

And now, with the pump installed :twisted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLdr5ym6-78

Again, focusing on RPM.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOlXn3b3PP4

And with my summer tires on it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dma5Qg0KS_g

burn_your_money · « **Reply #34 on:** June 18, 2008, 03:08:53 pm »

Quote from: "malone"

That's a huge gain for an NA, especially without the airflow increase The new curves are very linear!

How's the smoke?

The torque increase is immediate at low RPM (great for heavier load or uphill driving without having to downshift often) and the power is retained at higher RPM, allowing for longer gear pulls and better overall acceleration. It's a lot more than just a peak power difference.

Is this Giles' recent NA pump build using all his latest tricks? As usual, worth the money.

Again, nice job!

At WOT there is a light smoke, certainly no where near enough to produce a smoke screen. At 7/8 and less throttle there is no smoke. This pump was built about a month ago so it has all the tricks. Giles says he could turn the fuel up a bit more if there was a better intake and exhaust on it

Quote from: "Vincent Waldon"

Does that graph really say 48.73 hp at the wheels with the new pump ??

And, does the power keep going after 4000 RPM ??

Yes, 48.73 at the wheels

It pulls very well past 4000 RPM

Quote from: "saurkraut"

We're the pumps both in the same state of repair? IE an old bagged out , leaking stock pump Vrs a freashly rebuilt Super Pump?

The original pump had 200k kms on it. It was leaking very slightly from the throttle shaft. We will be putting it on a test bench and comparing it to factory settings.

jackbombay · « **Reply #35 on:** June 18, 2008, 03:15:41 pm »

How much smoke?

dieselwagen · « **Reply #36 on:** June 18, 2008, 03:25:58 pm »

if dyno runs are on OEM n/a, stock airbox, 13"superlite wheels
interesting what super pump will do
on engine with good compression, right transmission
ported cylinder head, and set of intake & headers
will you consider posting MPG, mr. burn your money?
wonder how long you will keep the setup?

nice flat torque curve from 2K - 3000rpm on dyno graph
video sound like the engine found new redline
you could use tach with big numbers

burn_your_money · « **Reply #37 on:** June 18, 2008, 03:33:11 pm »

Yes as soon as I get internet on my computer where I have all my mileage data I will be posting it.

burn_your_money · « **Reply #38 on:** June 18, 2008, 05:52:17 pm »

Ok just got my old pump (the stock one) off the test stand. It's far from worn out. Timing was within spec, as was low end fuel delivery. The governer was kicking in 1100 RPM too early so top end was limited. Basically on the dyno plot you would see the power continue to climb for several hundred more RPM before falling.

Vincent Waldon · « **Reply #39 on:** June 18, 2008, 07:55:27 pm »

Quote from: "Vincent Waldon"

Quote from: "Vincent Waldon"
36 (at the wheels) + 30% = 48 hp

What will be really really different is the power past 4000 RPM... she's gonna be an Energizer bunny and keep going and going and going.... ;-)

Does that graph really say 48.73 hp at the wheels with the new pump ??

And, does the power keep going after 4000 RPM ??

:wink:

We were playing for a Superpump, right ??!!!

RabbitJockey · « **Reply #40 on:** June 18, 2008, 09:48:24 pm »

for the price tho u could just turbo ur car

burn_your_money · « **Reply #41 on:** June 18, 2008, 09:48:27 pm »

you'll have to talk to Giles about that one

Turbos suck.... and the big picture is putting a super pump on a TD

Giles@PerformanceDiesel · « **Reply #42 on:** June 18, 2008, 09:50:24 pm »

hey guys

sorry no winners here, nobody guessed the correct #'s

so pony up and get your superpump ASAP

but seriously we're really happy with Tyler's car's results.

as some one said earlier i'd like to see a well done fresh engine
with porting, maybe 1.9L head, higher compression, headers, exhaust,
intake and cold air intake, ram air maybe?
then i can turn up the fuel more and i bet we can hit 65HP and 90 Ft/Ib's

Giles

RabbitJockey · « **Reply #43 on:** June 18, 2008, 09:55:23 pm »

since the performance of the said motor is exciting for na diesel standards but not for um regular standards, i wonder what kind of mileage u could get with such a setup. the increase in revvibility i bet really helps the feel of the car, i always feel like i am hitting a brick wall at 4k.

Justin · « **Reply #44 on:** June 19, 2008, 07:37:49 am »

the Mileage will depend mainly on how he likes the new power and how often he uses it.

I have a Giles Pump on my TDI with 15 psi of boost right now, missing 1st and 5th gear and I can still get 44 mpg, beat up on my brothers 01 seirra with a 5.3L V8, if I really drive like a @ss the worst I have seen is 38 mpg. the worst milage I have seen with this was 25 mpg, but that was cruising at 70-75 mph from Tucson AZ to Carson City, MI with a fully loaded 5x8 enclosed Uhaul trailer and stuff in the bed of the caddy. the super pump makes my caddy a towing machine!!!

Giles,
one of these days I will turn the boost up more and take advantage of all the fuel you have supplied me with. so far I have about 23,000 miles on the engine and pump since last May and everything is great.

later
jkeiffer