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Reply #60November 28, 2006, 08:38:06 pm

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« Reply #60 on: November 28, 2006, 08:38:06 pm »
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I bought a thirty dollar Kat's oilpan warmer several years ago, and it's kept my oil warm ever since. Cheap, easy to install, and excellent quality. Great idea, though.


Do you happen to know to what temperature the heater will bring the oil on a below-zero celcius day? After seeing that video, I personally don't want to settle for anything less than within 20 degrees of engine operating temps for startup.


video you say? I would like to see a video on the oil flow!


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Reply #61November 29, 2006, 06:23:29 am

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« Reply #61 on: November 29, 2006, 06:23:29 am »
it was presented in class. i'll look for it on the net.
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Reply #62November 29, 2006, 07:25:05 am

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« Reply #62 on: November 29, 2006, 07:25:05 am »
much appreciated :)

i really do love this quest for the ultimate in wear reduction on motors.  motors in warm climates such as australia go for much more money since they wear much less.  i dont really care about that though.. i just want longetivity of my motor (its bad enough that i drive it really hard... dont need any extra wear from lack of lube on cold days)


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Reply #63November 29, 2006, 10:15:40 am

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« Reply #63 on: November 29, 2006, 10:15:40 am »
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Do you happen to know to what temperature the heater will bring the oil on a below-zero celcius day? After seeing that video, I personally don't want to settle for anything less than within 20 degrees of engine operating temps for startup


Hot enough I can't put my hand on it for long (seven degrees below this morning, I checked).
I'm fine with it. I don't EVER plug in during the summer months, so I'm confident it's plenty warm. Besides, I'd much rather trust a Kat's or Moroso pad heater than something never intended for that purpose. I don't have time or inclination to cobble up something in my garage/ spare time. But ingenuity is what made America great- if you like to do it, do it.

As for the accumulator, I love that idea summer and winter.
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1997 Rokon Trailbreaker
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Reply #64November 29, 2006, 12:18:39 pm

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« Reply #64 on: November 29, 2006, 12:18:39 pm »
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video you say? I would like to see a video on the oil flow!


Forget the video, grab a 1 litre bottle of oil and throw it in your freezer. When you take it out, remove the cap and turn it upside down and wait.  I first got a practical demonstration of this in Quebec on a New Year's Day when it was -35 F.  My engine would barely turn over and wouldn't start. Tried this with a bottle of oil I had in the back.  No flow.  End result was a timing chain that jumped two teeth.  Had to turn the distributor to get it started.[/quote]
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Reply #65November 29, 2006, 11:53:39 pm

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« Reply #65 on: November 29, 2006, 11:53:39 pm »
cobbling! who is cobbling?
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Reply #66November 30, 2006, 10:04:56 am

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« Reply #66 on: November 30, 2006, 10:04:56 am »
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cobbling! who is cobbling?


Oh, hell. No offense meant. Where I come from, "cobbling" refers to fixing something ordinarily not considered "fixable". But the term has gotten me into trouble before. Sorry.
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Reply #67November 30, 2006, 12:19:37 pm

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« Reply #67 on: November 30, 2006, 12:19:37 pm »
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cobbling! who is cobbling?


Oh, hell. No offense meant. Where I come from, "cobbling" refers to fixing something ordinarily not considered "fixable". But the term has gotten me into trouble before. Sorry.


You really meant prototyping, right? :D
Calvin
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Reply #68November 30, 2006, 03:44:35 pm

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« Reply #68 on: November 30, 2006, 03:44:35 pm »
none taken, of course. I used to work with a card-carrying redneck (he really did have a redneck card!) who would literally cobble things together, with the utmost pride in the cobblation. The more rickety-duct tape-mismatched hardware-cut 5 times don't measure at all  the job, the more proud he was.
I've never been the same since! hehehe. I cringe every time I hear the word. :lol:
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Reply #69December 01, 2006, 09:21:20 am

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« Reply #69 on: December 01, 2006, 09:21:20 am »
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none taken, of course.


Thanks. It's tough to convey things right online, and my loudmouthedness doesn't help. But thanks again for being so gracious.
Frank Longtine
1983 Rabbit Diesel 4 dr/ 1.6NA
1997 Rokon Trailbreaker
1984 Ford F-150/ 300-6

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Reply #70December 16, 2006, 01:46:39 am

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« Reply #70 on: December 16, 2006, 01:46:39 am »
I may be reinventing wheels but this looks relatively easy to do.


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