Go to prothe, buy his guage and adapter for like $20.
HF adapter does need collar around the part that actually threads into the engine. In addition to that collar I put the copper washer between the collar and the adapter body. So I have the heatshield to the collar and then the washer and then the adapter.
I don't think a schrader is up to the task... 500psi? The HF fitting is a high pressure coupler that connects to the hose with a locking collar.
The kit has the copper washer in it. One of the 19 pcs If I remember correctly. I use that to get a good and proper seal between the roughly cast adapter and the collar. Crude casting but functional. Same reason we use copper between the fuel line to fuel pump fittings. I wouldn't think you would see that much of a difference in values with or without the collar but I would love to see the results. Kind of reference this Schraeder valve discussion as well. So do a measure or three with the injector body all properly installed, all the parts in place then pull the collar out of the mix. Then measure in GP hole for comparison purposes. Could be very enlightening.Quote from: ORCoaster on May 22, 2014, 12:18:18 amHF adapter does need collar around the part that actually threads into the engine. In addition to that collar I put the copper washer between the collar and the adapter body. So I have the heatshield to the collar and then the washer and then the adapter.ORCoaster,Where did you get the copper washer? Why did you use it?? Is it necessary to use it, in your opinion?I think I under stand that the compressed chamber volume must be the same when testing as when the injector is in place. Although the "volume" of the collar is small, it's presence does add or subtract substantially to or from the compressed volume thereby affecting the compression reading. I suppose that one could take a compression reading with and without the adapter just to see what difference it might make.So, does the HF kit have every thing I need?Mark I can't believe you said this:As it's below the one way valve, it would fill up and discharge as part of the engine chamber every stroke. Further guessing, I'd say that that was approaching +15% of the compression chamber, or nearing 75psi on a good day...Not crucial if you are just comparing cylinders, but might wrongly influence someone to embark on a $2000 rebuild if they believed the score. 1600 cc engine /4cylinders =400 cc per 1/400=? .0025 or .25% not even close to 15%. So if you are trying to measure 600 PSI and you are off .25% can you detect that on the face of the gauge? That is 1.5 lbs, I can't differentiate that on my gauge at all. Given the increments are much greater than 1 lb or even 5 lbs apart. Mountain of a molehill I say.
Not visible, the Schraeder valve is at the tip of the silver colored quick coupler.
http://www.hansautoparts.com/DieselCompressionGauge.aspxhttp://www.hansautoparts.com/16CompressionFitting.aspx$16 total. Seriosuly, it works perfectly..
........My tester is a Snap-on similar to below. There is a pressure relief valve up near the gauge, but there is also a brass to brass one way valve down near the adapter. A shriver valve, unless purpose built would struggle because of the plastic seal. Someone volumize the collar and washer to help my in my defense ....................................
....Still would like to see the measurements on the cylinder pressure.
Collar(.67/2)2 * 3.14 = 0.3523865in2- ((.555/2)2 * 3.14 = 0.241799625in2)= 0.110586875in2X .44" = 0.048658225in30.048658225in3 = .797365447 cc Cavity(.33/2)2 * 3.14 = 0.0854865in20.0854865in2 * 1.6 = 0.1367784in30.1367784in3 = 2.24139639cctotal = 3.038761837cc1notch max piston protrusion = .86mm3notch max piston protrusion = 1.02mmdifference = .16mmcyl diameter 77mm (2nd overbore)((77/2)2 *3.14) * .16 = 744.6824mm3744.6824mm3 = .744cc