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October 23, 2013, 08:20:29 pm

Blue Haze

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surging on 1.9 AAZ mtr in 82 Caddy
« on: October 23, 2013, 08:20:29 pm »
I experience occasionally bad surging the truck acts like it is not getting fuel.  When the surging starts I can accelerate and it will stop or back off and it will stop.  Happens in any gear but mostly in the lower gears.  The person that installed my mtr had a lot of trouble getting fuel to the mtr to get it to run.  I don't know what he finally did.  I have found a fitting laying loose that came from the injection pump so I think he had changed it.  What size should the fitting from the fuel filter to the pump be.  This one looks like it is the same size as the injectors 3.5 mm seems small to me.  Any suggestions appreciated.

Reply #1October 23, 2013, 11:30:13 pm

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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2013, 11:30:13 pm »
Loose injection pump bolts can definitely cause this, in particular the one under the injector lines.
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Reply #2October 24, 2013, 05:11:03 pm

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Re: surging on 1.9 AAZ mtr in 82 Caddy
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2013, 05:11:03 pm »
Check the IP bracket bolts--my brother was experiencing this on his car, and when we took things apart we found that two of the IP bracket bolts were loose. Haven't gotten that car back on the road yet, but I have run the pump in my car, and it's fine, so check your brackets.
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Reply #3October 26, 2013, 10:14:09 am

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Re: surging on 1.9 AAZ mtr in 82 Caddy
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2013, 10:14:09 am »
I had exactly the same problem after installing the Giles pump on my AAZ (in a Caddy). I started by blaming Giles, but now publicly confess that I was wrong. I, yes, I, forgot to tighten the mounting bolts.
No surging now.

Reply #4October 27, 2013, 08:33:15 pm

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Re: surging on 1.9 AAZ mtr in 82 Caddy
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2013, 08:33:15 pm »
Also on the list of things to check are worn cvs. If the joints have too much play it can cause surging in lower gears.
Tyler

Reply #5November 19, 2013, 07:11:38 am

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Re: surging on 1.9 AAZ mtr in 82 Caddy
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2013, 07:11:38 am »
The surging problem turned out to be the accelerator cable.  While the grommet was in the bracket on the pump the cable housing was moving or not moving.  One of the clips to hold the cable was left off.  The new cable I got a threaded cable and nuts to hold the cable in the bracket.   

Reply #6November 20, 2013, 07:44:19 pm

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What did you get for a cable?
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Reply #7November 21, 2013, 07:10:20 am

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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2013, 07:10:20 am »
I bought it on e Bay thru Autozone and paid $13.00 for it.  Way better cable as far as mounting than the stock one.

Reply #8November 21, 2013, 01:37:57 pm

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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2013, 01:37:57 pm »
Got a part number or anything?
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Reply #9November 22, 2013, 07:56:34 am

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Re: surging on 1.9 AAZ mtr in 82 Caddy
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2013, 07:56:34 am »
From Autozone  it is listed as Pioneer CA-8584 again I bought it on E Bay.

Reply #10November 24, 2013, 01:54:00 pm

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Re: surging on 1.9 AAZ mtr in 82 Caddy
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2013, 01:54:00 pm »
I had exactly the same problem after installing the Giles pump on my AAZ (in a Caddy). I started by blaming Giles, but now publicly confess that I was wrong. I, yes, I, forgot to tighten the mounting bolts.
No surging now.

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