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#15
by
Kazuki
on 21 May, 2013 11:11
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Saw the vid.
I'd bottle-feed: from (and back-to) a clean container, to separate the filter and long lines from the variables. Ensure there is flow through the IP.
I'd also verify the basics:
No air in lines
Cold-start lever pulled
12V at GPs
Then, I'd check compression and timing.
timing is good
cold-start pulled
i dont think theres air in the lines ive bleed the system #3 injectoer is not pumping fuel out when shes cracked loose ?
ok so i checked volts going from + bat to the wire on the block im geting 10-12v
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#16
by
ORCoaster
on 21 May, 2013 12:38
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Crack the nut at the pump at number 3 to see if there is fuel there. If so move to top and crack that one until fuel comes to the nut.
But really if you have it at three others the fourth shouldn't matter. It will be difficult to start but not impossible.
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#17
by
Kazuki
on 21 May, 2013 15:35
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Crack the nut at the pump at number 3 to see if there is fuel there. If so move to top and crack that one until fuel comes to the nut.
But really if you have it at three others the fourth shouldn't matter. It will be difficult to start but not impossible.
I'm getting fuel at all injectors I'm going to try and add pressure to the fuel tank and see what happens
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#18
by
745 turbogreasel
on 21 May, 2013 16:44
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Nothing will happen, the return line will negate your pressure.
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#19
by
ORCoaster
on 21 May, 2013 19:26
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If you have fuel clear to the injector and still think it isn't working then you need to service the injector.
Something in the body or line that is preventing fuel from spitting out the other end.
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#20
by
sgnimj96
on 21 May, 2013 20:32
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WD-40 sprayed into the intake while cranking might get it going. Adding an electric fuel pump is a big help for starting problems, the little mechanical pump has a tough time with air or any restrictions (i.e. clogged fuel filter) in the system... hard on your battery/starter, too.
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#21
by
Kazuki
on 22 May, 2013 09:07
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ok so ive made progress i found out that im not gettting fuel from the tank theres a block of some sort do i have a 2d pump? cause i saw this picture below and theirs wires running to it and
the fuel lines from the tank go in to it then run up to the filter.
i also got a bottle and filled it with diesel and tried starting her with a bottle full of diesel no luck the pump is sucking from the bottle just fine
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#22
by
TylerDurden
on 22 May, 2013 10:26
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I'd take the injector lines off the IP and watch the delivery valves while someone cranks the engine... fuel should sequentially spit from each delivery valve. Keeping fuel off the hoses is easy using shop rags.
I'd remove any delivery valves that don't spit (being careful to not lose the guts) and test again.
Sucking from the bottle needs to be more specific... fuel needs to be flowing to the IP and from the IP *without bubbles* at about .5 liter/min when the engine is cranking. (About 1 liter/min @1000rpm)
The picture is a useless water-separator which most folks remove and replace with fuel line. They get brittle with age and leak air into the line.
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#23
by
Kazuki
on 22 May, 2013 12:18
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I'd take the injector lines off the IP and watch the delivery valves while someone cranks the engine... fuel should sequentially spit from each delivery valve. Keeping fuel off the hoses is easy using shop rags.
I'd remove any delivery valves that don't spit (being careful to not lose the guts) and test again.
Sucking from the bottle needs to be more specific... fuel needs to be flowing to the IP and from the IP *without bubbles* at about .5 liter/min when the engine is cranking. (About 1 liter/min @1000rpm)
The picture is a useless water-separator which most folks remove and replace with fuel line. They get brittle with age and leak air into the line.
hmm ok i have a gatorade bottle with diesel in it going to the IP inlet with clear line when i stop cracking theirs air bubbles that back flow from the inlet in to the bottle. then also from the return line going to the fuel tank i can see air . so im going to bleed the system there must be a lot or air
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#24
by
RabbitJockey
on 22 May, 2013 12:20
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get rid of that water separator.
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#25
by
Kazuki
on 22 May, 2013 12:52
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get rid of that water separator.
yeah im going to
here what i have set up for the moment
im still getting a bit of air somewere i think it might be from the water separator
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#26
by
ORCoaster
on 22 May, 2013 13:00
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Are you sure about no air in the fuel filter? Or the little screw on top being loose? With that much air in the lines you may have a seal problem on the pump. Running on the Gatorade bottle will tell you that. To get fuel into and air out of the IP I use a big syringe for mixing 2 stroke oil. The diameter of the hose just fits in the out bolt hole and I can see air in it as the plastic is clear. I pull air and some fuel in then let the fuel drain back in. Then pull on it some more till I can see fuel all the way to the top of the pump. Granted that does not get it all but 98 percent of it.
With air like you have in the lines I doubt it will run proper. And why is it blue? Purge? Or koolaid
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#27
by
Kazuki
on 22 May, 2013 14:03
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Are you sure about no air in the fuel filter? Or the little screw on top being loose? With that much air in the lines you may have a seal problem on the pump. Running on the Gatorade bottle will tell you that. To get fuel into and air out of the IP I use a big syringe for mixing 2 stroke oil. The diameter of the hose just fits in the out bolt hole and I can see air in it as the plastic is clear. I pull air and some fuel in then let the fuel drain back in. Then pull on it some more till I can see fuel all the way to the top of the pump. Granted that does not get it all but 98 percent of it.
With air like you have in the lines I doubt it will run proper. And why is it blue? Purge? Or koolaid
yeah its weird tho she wont pump any more fuel when cranking its like it cant pull the fuel when air get in then she tires to fire its weird i can make a video to show you guys oh and the blue idk its diesel? the little screw it tight . i also removed the water separator
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#28
by
hillfolk'r
on 22 May, 2013 14:11
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Farm diesel is blue. Off road is red. White/clear is on road fuel.
Yea water seperators can *** up. So u got it running from the can ?
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#29
by
hillfolk'r
on 22 May, 2013 14:17
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If you got both lines in a can, and lets assume u got compression and glow, and the timing didnt jump,and the fuel solenoid is workin , id start lookin for a pump im thinkin.
Guys he said his aneroid pin is straight so it doesn't have boost enrichment anyways so IMO screw it and use a NA pump. Easier and cheaper to find
