UPDATE na-td motor swap Timed correctly atf in now engine no crank

[bbob203]

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/solidstatepump.php?clickkey=7286 this should show up tomorrow.

[bbob203]

someone on another forum recommended spin the pump with an electric drill and putting an in bolt on my output temporarily.

[R.O.R-2.0]

I have a facet low pressure pump from napa. It cost me $45 4 years ago so im guessing its about $60 in todays dollars. Go get one. I was one of Jeremy's first customers and noticed the pump took a little bit of help from the low pressure pump until it would pump anything from 2 of the 4 delivery valves. After that issue was squared away I noticed my car was close to impossible to start. I found out he accidentally flipped the orientation of the pump internals. I had to purchase an old style pump pulley from ebay to retime my pump by flipping the new pulley 180 degrees. Now I can bet dollars to doughnuts that because jeremy built this pump after mine that your pump is NOT 180 degrees out.

if his pump is 180* out, he did it, not Jeremy..

[745 turbogreasel]

UIf the lift pump doesn't do it, increase cranking speed via tow chain to get things moving...

[bbob203]

tow chain?? ah you mean like hook it up to another vehicle?

[745 turbogreasel]

Exactly that.  If your starter cranks at 400RPM engine, that's only 200 at the pump.
Behind a tow car, you can easily get 2-3000RPM engine speed in 2nd or 3rd.  That will greatly increase the vanes urge to sling  out into position, and overcome many a pumping deficiency.
If you don't want it to start, just leave the pipe to injector nuts loose.  You are winning when all injectors are wet with fuel.

[bbob203]

how many turns in from fully removed is the fuel screw set from the factory?

[R.O.R-2.0]

how many turns in from fully removed is the fuel screw set from the factory?

its installed with it wound in clear against the stop collar..

[bbob203]

I pulled off the t belt again and tried using a drill to spin the pump but it didn't have the balls to turn it. I used a ratchet to spin in as as as i could as i could see the fuel level in the line move so i guess the vanes are doing something. it wasn't pulling fuel in but it ws moving nothing is still coming from outbound line or delivery valves.. I think the problem is wit the delivery valves thats the only thing that has been changed on the pump. Im giving up and putting the eco pump back in i need a car.

[bbob203]

so I just started loosening injector lines to swap pumps and bottom 2 delivery valves had fuel dripping from them top 2 are still dry.

[bbob203]

spun the pump with WOT and saw fuel physically dribbling out of bottom two delivery valves for sure. might the tops be stuck?

[8v-of-fury]

Interesting.. If it has sat in ATF for this long it should be groovy in there.. but still 2 of them having fuel should have been enough to get some smoke from the tailpipe.

[bbob203]

its making a choking duck noise when i crank it over..

[8v-of-fury]

And you are absolutely sure the valve timing is correct?

[bbob203]

And you are absolutely sure the valve timing is correct?

AS far as i can tell it is, Is the duck noise a bad sign?