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Reply #75August 04, 2012, 01:11:13 pm

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Re: Northwest All Out Soot Out..
« Reply #75 on: August 04, 2012, 01:11:13 pm »
i just dont see how josh can make power than nobody else has safely done..

usually much over 200hp from a 1.6, and you are god.. much more than 250 or more, and you are playing with fire..

I think because he has good manifolds that flOw well with a ported head, a good sized turbo that's not blowing out hot air or corking up the exhaust and most of the big power is above 3500-4000,  and a 10mm Giles pump woot woot.  I wonder if an 11 or 12 would help

an Ebay T3 manifold is not something i consider to flow well.. ive got one as well.. i think its a JOKE.

my manifolds flow as good or better than joshes.. (tubular turbo header, and dual plenum stock TD)

his power is so high because he has a 300D turbo.. he said it himself that he doesnt like how late the turbo spools..

when his truck is sitting idling, you can not hear a SPEC of turbo scream.. the turbo doesnt even come alive until he throttles it up.

im thinking thats why he builds all his power above 4000 revs..

how many of you guys have actually seen Joshes truck? its a real fuggin sleeper.. completely stock looking, clear down to the OEM VW alloy wheels.. i believe he has tarantulas on it, right josh?

i still love your truck, i just think you should install your VNT that you have been playing around with..

(BTW, im still happy as hell that i bought the 2056 from you.. just gotta get it working right. i had it working good, but then the wastegate can i had operating it seized up)

maybe i will play around with some LOL once i get my 10mm pump built..

i need more fuel bad, i only make ~1200* @ full pedal.. (about 38psi)
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #76August 04, 2012, 04:30:46 pm

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Re: Northwest All Out Soot Out..
« Reply #76 on: August 04, 2012, 04:30:46 pm »
154whp at 11psi lol I wanna see a tdi do that.  I like to raise the idea of idi superiority haha
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Reply #77August 04, 2012, 06:38:16 pm

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« Reply #77 on: August 04, 2012, 06:38:16 pm »
So this is an AAZ that does 154whp at 11psi? No such thing as IDI superiority lol. A TDI could do the same power on 15% less fuel. ;)

Reply #78August 05, 2012, 06:49:13 am

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Re: Northwest All Out Soot Out..
« Reply #78 on: August 05, 2012, 06:49:13 am »
So this is an AAZ that does 154whp at 11psi? No such thing as IDI superiority lol. A TDI could do the same power on 15% less fuel. ;)

No it's a. 1.6 with aaz head technically using only displacement as a factor an aaz could do 180whp at 11psi.  But yeah the tdi wins when it comes to simplicity and fuel economy which is why the entire market went that way.  I forget why the sae papers said vw chose the idi it was somewhat to do with noise I gues before they figured out to use pilot injection.  It's the revibility that makes that hp possible at such low boost, but I also don't doubt that a tdi could make higher rom power
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Reply #79September 02, 2012, 12:58:19 am

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« Reply #79 on: September 02, 2012, 12:58:19 am »
Where can I see pictures of this high-hp Caddy and its engine?
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Reply #80September 02, 2012, 02:41:58 am

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Re: Northwest All Out Soot Out..
« Reply #80 on: September 02, 2012, 02:41:58 am »
tdi wins when it comes to simplicity
Hows that? The cable I need for engine control is replace with 177 wires...

Reply #81September 02, 2012, 01:55:26 pm

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Re: Northwest All Out Soot Out..
« Reply #81 on: September 02, 2012, 01:55:26 pm »
tdi wins when it comes to simplicity
Hows that? The cable I need for engine control is replace with 177 wires...

the only way a TDI is even as simple as a IDI, is if its converted to use a mechanical pump..

if its a stock E-TDI, with 177 wires running it, then no, its not simple..

it may be simple compared to a brand new ford 6.7L powersmoke tho..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #82September 02, 2012, 06:18:31 pm

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Re: Northwest All Out Soot Out..
« Reply #82 on: September 02, 2012, 06:18:31 pm »
Hows that? The cable I need for engine control is replace with 177 wires...

Hardly, the pedal still pulls on a metal braided cable ;)

the only way a TDI is even as simple as a IDI, is if its converted to use a mechanical pump..

if its a stock E-TDI, with 177 wires running it, then no, its not simple..

it may be simple compared to a brand new ford 6.7L powersmoke tho..

Actually, converting to Mechanical TDI is no easy feat either. There was never a 1.9L Mechanical TDI offered, and therefore must be a custom jobby. Yes 4BT, and rover pumps do well.. but they don't do it as well as the stock electronics. Now, putting those 12mm internals in to the stock E-TDI pump whilst remaining electronic with a tune and some huge injectors and turbo.. that'd be pretty sweeeeeeeeeeeet.

LoL. It does not take 177 wires to run an E-TDI. It is still just one wire on the pump head to close/open a solenoid. The wiring is merely for control over timing. Really though, the pump has like a 8 pin connector... half of which are grounds! There is nothing complex about a 1Z/AHU/ALH, unless an EXTREMELY simplistic ECM and some wires scare you. ;D

To prove the simplicity; the electronic DI pump has about 1/8th of internal pieces when compared to an IDI pump, no pre-cups in the head, lower compression, no need for glow plugs (i've started mine at -20c with no plugs), NEVER a head gasket failure, injectors aren't torqued in to the head at 300ft.lbs, no guessing with timing belt tension, pretty much impossible to have a misaligned pump bracket to cause walk-offs..

Need I say more? What is not simple about sensors?? Either they work or they don't, pretty simple.

Reply #83September 03, 2012, 04:30:23 am

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« Reply #83 on: September 03, 2012, 04:30:23 am »
So there are 8 wires on the pump connector, but oh wait, what's this talk of sensors???? Are they bluetooth?  Do they talk to the pump directly?  Does each one not have2+ wires, each having 2-4 connectors subject to corrosion , deformation, and decay?

I'm not afraid of it, check engine lights are my livelihood.

Reply #84September 03, 2012, 04:39:15 am

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« Reply #84 on: September 03, 2012, 04:39:15 am »
So there are 8 wires on the pump connector, but oh wait, what's this talk of sensors???? Are they bluetooth?  Do they talk to the pump directly?  Does each one not have2+ wires, each having 2-4 connectors subject to corrosion , deformation, and decay?

I'm not afraid of it, check engine lights are my livelihood.

Seem pretty damn reliable, when most stock electronic systems outlive the car.. and the engine swap to a different car.

They are your livelihood why? Ease, and simplicity. :)

Reply #85September 03, 2012, 09:32:45 am

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Re: Northwest All Out Soot Out..
« Reply #85 on: September 03, 2012, 09:32:45 am »
So there are 8 wires on the pump connector, but oh wait, what's this talk of sensors???? Are they bluetooth?  Do they talk to the pump directly?  Does each one not have2+ wires, each having 2-4 connectors subject to corrosion , deformation, and decay?

I'm not afraid of it, check engine lights are my livelihood.

Seem pretty damn reliable, when most stock electronic systems outlive the car.. and the engine swap to a different car.

They are your livelihood why? Ease, and simplicity. :)

the IDI runs no matter what tho..

even after a BIG EMP BLAST, you could make it run..

TDI, doubt it..

simplicity is something that will last thru the apocalypse..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #86September 03, 2012, 09:41:39 am

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« Reply #86 on: September 03, 2012, 09:41:39 am »
Guess you didnt read my post eh? The tdi pumps are still one wire. Also even if you had to swap in a mechanical pump itd still be more simple than an old idi.

Reply #87September 03, 2012, 10:28:50 am

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« Reply #87 on: September 03, 2012, 10:28:50 am »
Guess you didnt read my post eh? The tdi pumps are still one wire. Also even if you had to swap in a mechanical pump itd still be more simple than an old idi.

the PUMP is controlled by one wire..

the throttle and timing are NOT.

if all the electronics get cooked on a TDI, all it does is IDLE..

thats pretty useless..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #88September 03, 2012, 05:57:16 pm

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Re: Northwest All Out Soot Out..
« Reply #88 on: September 03, 2012, 05:57:16 pm »
i did mean tdi was simpler when you are talking mtdi mostly because it was directed at 8v.  tdi is really not much more complex than an aba if at all.  i used to think ew electronics, but electronics have come a long way in the last 30 years the failure rate is quite low, especially considering car electronics which are generally left out in the elements and heat cycled continuously.
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Reply #89September 03, 2012, 06:54:16 pm

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« Reply #89 on: September 03, 2012, 06:54:16 pm »
OK well if an EMP comes then yes the ECU is a downfall..

But other than that, the 1.9 TDI in a whole, is in every way better than the 1.6 IDI.