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October 01, 2010, 12:10:39 am
Alcaid
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W terminal output? PWM?
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Hi,
does anyone know what the output is on the W terminal on the alternator? Is it PWM with varying duty cycle? At what voltage?
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October 01, 2010, 09:50:31 am
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It's an alternating current source from one of the windings before the alternator diodes.
This allows you to determine the engine speed on a diesel engine based on the frequency of the current (with a tachometer designed for this). Even the cars that didn't have tachometers had some dashboard functions that required an input for engine speed.
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October 01, 2010, 09:59:17 am
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It's an 8 V RMS square wave... frequency dependent on RPM. There's a thread with oscilloscope pictures... I'll see if I can find it.
EDIT: here it is:
http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=13499.0
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October 01, 2010, 10:01:30 am
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That would be excellent! So duty cycle is constant then (50%?) and the frequency is the variable?
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October 01, 2010, 10:12:34 am
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Yup... it's really just one leg of the alternator's winding before rectification, so a square wave.
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2001 silver TDI Jetta Malone Stage 1.5 , 2001 blue TDI Jetta SBIII 216s Malone Stage 3, 1970 Bay Window bus
Gone but not forgotten: 1969/1971 Beetles, 1969/1974 Westies, 1979 Rabbit, 1986 TD Jetta, 1992 gas Jetta, 1994 TD Jetta
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October 01, 2010, 01:57:40 pm
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I don't know what you want it for but I'm getting a more accurate engine speed signal from he pressure switch mounted in the pump head.
It's a normally closed switch and triggers at twice crank speed so perfect to drive a gas tacho with no conditioning - just a 12v supply.
For my application I'm taking the 30 - 230Hz signal to a LM2917 F-V converter to give a 0-5 signal for an ADC to sample
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October 01, 2010, 02:00:50 pm
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Actually, i have a plan to build a VNT controller to control a GTB2056VK turbo on a 1.6TD, so rpm input is needed.
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