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Reply #90August 04, 2010, 08:52:33 am

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Re: The old blue rebuild (1983 1.6 TD)
« Reply #90 on: August 04, 2010, 08:52:33 am »
286 2nd Avenue
Tiffin, OH 44883-1327
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The guy is named John. Great guy. Same that did my head. I think I had 500.00 shipped both ways for full port and polish, SS valves, flowbench tested, and complete rebuild. If you didn't get port, polish, and flowbench I bet it would be at least 100 cheaper

Reply #91August 04, 2010, 09:33:51 am

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Re: The old blue rebuild (1983 1.6 TD)
« Reply #91 on: August 04, 2010, 09:33:51 am »
I didnt know that it wouldnt cost with it before i walked out, believe me if i did i would have walked out with everything on that head lol

see the problem with doing it my self is i dont have any valve spring compressors  :-\ or i would do all of the work myself

Ill keep Toms number in my phone just
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Reply #92August 04, 2010, 09:35:57 am

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Re: The old blue rebuild (1983 1.6 TD)
« Reply #92 on: August 04, 2010, 09:35:57 am »
286 2nd Avenue
Tiffin, OH 44883-1327
(419) 443-8987

The guy is named John. Great guy. Same that did my head. I think I had 500.00 shipped both ways for full port and polish, SS valves, flowbench tested, and complete rebuild. If you didn't get port, polish, and flowbench I bet it would be at least 100 cheaper

 See the only problem with him is i got to ship  the head, the guy Baron is talking about he is 15Mins away from me, I know he is probably really good but its just much easier to take it 15MIN
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Reply #93August 04, 2010, 12:14:21 pm

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Re: The old blue rebuild (1983 1.6 TD)
« Reply #93 on: August 04, 2010, 12:14:21 pm »
The order i listed of things to do to the head weren't in chronological order. It was late and the pillow was calling me with a real convincing tone.

If you're gonna do the precups, do them first.
And it might would require pro machining to deck the surface after they are staked in place. I've never gotten involved with precups.

I'm beginning to wonder if the upgrade they did for TD precups might have been instituted across the board on all precups. Wonder if there are part numbers that can be referenced to distinguish ?

As nice as that head is, majority on these boards would do the block sanding and hand lapping (with your TD valves) and go right ahead forward with it using new valve guide seals.

Its understandable if you don't have access or are more comfortable having it done by someone else. They'll probably clean it nice, check spring pressures, check valve giude clearances, install the guide seals (supposed to be a bit of a bicht), and hopefully re-shim the cam/lifter clearances if needed. Tom is the #1 go-to-guy around here. He was born in a VW, and hasn't left them since. His ol man is same way. They have connections when/where needed.

Reply #94August 04, 2010, 03:48:26 pm

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Re: The old blue rebuild (1983 1.6 TD)
« Reply #94 on: August 04, 2010, 03:48:26 pm »
Im going to do the precups when i have time but at this point in my life im pretty busy with everything about moving to college and getting everything ready and trying to find a job down in wilmington, plus getting my car back togather. so give me some time but everything will come back together eventually  ;) right i hope!

But open to tips and what yall think also

Baron- im am comfortable doing the head myself its just i dont have the proper tools to do get it done right. Ill take it to Tom when i get around to it, you talk like he is the best around, and i bet he is! ill mention you sent me maybe he will knock some change off lol

I always hand lap every engine ive rebuilt, i dont know of any other way of doing it.

I wish someone would chime in that knows alot of the precups, do the TD and NA have different parts numbers?
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Reply #95August 06, 2010, 06:31:39 pm

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Re: The old blue rebuild (1983 1.6 TD)
« Reply #95 on: August 06, 2010, 06:31:39 pm »
heres the differences in the head that i have.

Heres the cracked one the original one.


Heres the new one


the cracked one


The new one


 I dont think any of this would matter but im just showing it to yall folks
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Reply #96August 07, 2010, 04:59:36 pm

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Re: The old blue rebuild (1983 1.6 TD)
« Reply #96 on: August 07, 2010, 04:59:36 pm »
I think the consensus around here is  ... we don't have too much rhyme or reason behind the suffix following 373 on the heads.

Just to compound that - i have a complete 85 TD engine that appears to be unaltered. The head is 373 M.
Same as your 85 NA replacement head.

My 85 TD-GL was a two owner car and not a bolt nut or bracket missing. The head is 373 N.

The 82 12mm engine in my 81 Truck has a 373 B head.

The 2 Hydra TD engines are both 373 T heads.

I've asked Bill to get the number from his 84 TD head.

Reply #97March 12, 2011, 02:53:55 am

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Re: The old blue rebuild (1983 1.6 TD)
« Reply #97 on: March 12, 2011, 02:53:55 am »
Okay Im back for a week (spring break) So this is what i have done this week workin a little here and there...

Cleaned the Block and painted it black.
 

Put the crank in and torqued the main bolts down


slid the pistons in very carefully lol i was afraid i would hit the squirter. I didnt replace the Connecting rod nut (bolt) What the Bentley says i guess it will be fine. I didnt quite understand what they said to replace the stud or nut?





Does anyone know what this gasket goes to?


I will resume for good this May with my engine...
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Reply #98March 12, 2011, 03:13:30 am

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Re: The old blue rebuild (1983 1.6 TD)
« Reply #98 on: March 12, 2011, 03:13:30 am »
That gasket on the bottom looks like the dual outlet exhaust manifold gasket.  I've never seen a diesel with a duel outlet manifold, but my gas 1.8 has one. It is safe to discard it.

Reply #99March 12, 2011, 03:18:34 am

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Re: The old blue rebuild (1983 1.6 TD)
« Reply #99 on: March 12, 2011, 03:18:34 am »
That gasket on the bottom looks like the dual outlet exhaust manifold gasket.  I've never seen a diesel with a duel outlet manifold, but my gas 1.8 has one. It is safe to discard it.


thanks man. you want it? pay for shipping and ill give it to you!
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Reply #100March 12, 2011, 03:40:13 am

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Re: The old blue rebuild (1983 1.6 TD)
« Reply #100 on: March 12, 2011, 03:40:13 am »
All set. I sold that piece of crap for 250 bucks. I'm waiting on the guy to come get it.  I needed a car for my wife last year and it was available for 1500 and had "all kinds of work" done to it. Yeah, it had about 6 washers stacked on the clutch cable as spacers, and it was a manual cable vs the auto adjust. The exhaust mani leaked, and the brake lines and proportioning valve were a solid mass of rust.  So I don't need a gasket for it, haha. ;)

Reply #101March 12, 2011, 11:54:13 am

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Re: The old blue rebuild (1983 1.6 TD)
« Reply #101 on: March 12, 2011, 11:54:13 am »
haha i hear you it a dumb gasser anyways....
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Reply #102March 12, 2011, 12:34:56 pm

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Re: The old blue rebuild (1983 1.6 TD)
« Reply #102 on: March 12, 2011, 12:34:56 pm »
I didnt know that it wouldnt cost with it before i walked out, believe me if i did i would have walked out with everything on that head lol

see the problem with doing it my self is i dont have any valve spring compressors  :-\ or i would do all of the work myself

Ill keep Toms number in my phone just

I don't have a compressor either. I used an 8 inch clamp and a O2 sensor to get the head disassembled.
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Reply #103March 16, 2011, 02:28:44 pm

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Re: The old blue rebuild (1983 1.6 TD)
« Reply #103 on: March 16, 2011, 02:28:44 pm »
I didnt know that it wouldnt cost with it before i walked out, believe me if i did i would have walked out with everything on that head lol

see the problem with doing it my self is i dont have any valve spring compressors  :-\ or i would do all of the work myself

Ill keep Toms number in my phone just

I don't have a compressor either. I used an 8 inch clamp and a O2 sensor to get the head disassembled.

Im Just going to leave the head to the professionals...
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Reply #104March 16, 2011, 10:49:08 pm

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Re: The old blue rebuild (1983 1.6 TD)
« Reply #104 on: March 16, 2011, 10:49:08 pm »
Im looking for some new injectors now. I gotta get something stright before i buy some

1.6 td - 155bar
1.6 na- 130bar or 135bar
1.5 na- 115 bar ?

Im probably totally off but would someone correct me.

 And can i run 1.6 na injectors in my 1.6 td? I think the answer to that question is yes but i have to time the IP to 1.6 NA Correct? 
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