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Reply #45July 14, 2010, 10:03:48 pm

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Re: Lets have a muffler thread
« Reply #45 on: July 14, 2010, 10:03:48 pm »
Hey Smokey Eddy, do you have the part# for that 2.5" flex you got  from lordco?  That's exactly what I've been looking for.
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Reply #46July 14, 2010, 10:41:26 pm

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Re: Lets have a muffler thread
« Reply #46 on: July 14, 2010, 10:41:26 pm »
Hey Smoky Eddy, do you have the part# for that 2.5" flex you got  from lordco?  That's exactly what I've been looking for.

I'll look this evening.
Ed
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Reply #47July 15, 2010, 01:27:05 pm

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« Reply #47 on: July 15, 2010, 01:27:05 pm »
Great exhausts but some of the prices seem a bit steep :-\

Check around for some local exhaust shops (not talking midas, places that do custom work for modded cars or trucks) I had a full 3" downpipe and exhaust with a long flex and side exit turn down, all mandrel bent alumized piping for 300 installed.  A salty winter later and it still looks mint
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Reply #48July 15, 2010, 01:34:19 pm

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Re: Lets have a muffler thread
« Reply #48 on: July 15, 2010, 01:34:19 pm »
Great exhausts but some of the prices seem a bit steep :-\

Check around for some local exhaust shops (not talking midas, places that do custom work for modded cars or trucks) I had a full 3" downpipe and exhaust with a long flex and side exit turn down, all mandrel bent alumized piping for 300 installed.  A salty winter later and it still looks mint

you got a steal bro.
Lordco can sell performance parts at cost + about 30% or so. I looked on the flex but the sticker has worn down. Just go in a talk to a sales guy there. They have a catalogue of flexes to look at. A variety of difference meshed lengths and what have you.
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Reply #49July 15, 2010, 08:25:29 pm

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« Reply #49 on: July 15, 2010, 08:25:29 pm »
That flexpipe in your pic is exactly what I'm looking for Smokey Eddy.  If you happen to find the receipt for it let me know.  We don't have Lordco in Alberta and napa has been useless.  I can order from lordco thru a local shop but I pretty much need a part number.

By the way, I'm running a 2.5" flow-pro muffler which turned out to be very quiet.  I just ordered some mandrel bends and will be attempting to fab up my own downpipe.  My current downpipe was made from the aaz stock downpipe.    
Toyota truck 4x4 with Mtdi, M-vnt gt1749va, 11mm pump, fmic, smog .216 nozzles.  Sold!
Working on 1993 4runner mtdi, gtb1756vk, 11mm pump, smog .216 nozzles, custom 1" thick adaptor plate, pd150 intake manifold.

Reply #50July 16, 2010, 03:04:52 am

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« Reply #50 on: July 16, 2010, 03:04:52 am »
Okay well I'll see what i can do. You can just call someone at Lordco and they can look it up for you... do you want the number of a lordco here in my town? :P
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Reply #51September 06, 2010, 02:55:16 am

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Re: Lets have a muffler thread
« Reply #51 on: September 06, 2010, 02:55:16 am »
Bump
I just got a 2.25" DP back, no cat res or muffler. Running the stock k03 on my 1.9td in a 96 jetta.
Someone told me i was retarded and my turbo ( which is brand new ) will now die in a matter of weeks because i have no back pressure and it will have to much wheel speed. Has anyone ran into this problem or am i safe?

Also noise inside is amazing, quiet yet powerful.
Girlfriend said my car sounds like its going to die and you can hear my turbo from a few blocks away ;D

also, being as this is my first post on this site sorry if this ends up in a PM or something...

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Reply #52September 06, 2010, 04:48:31 am

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« Reply #52 on: September 06, 2010, 04:48:31 am »
HA that is funny.
You're friend has no idea what they are talking about. You have nothing to worry about. It's boost leak that will over spool the turbo. just think about it for two seconds and it will make sense.
dumb people calling OTHER people dumb annoys me.
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Blacked out mk2 AAZ Jetta RIP. You are missed.
White 1999.5 ALH Golf 2dr. Low & wide. Rammed off the road RIP.
Blue 2009 CR140 Jetta CBEA/CJAA. Malone stage 2. EGR/DPF/Exhaust-valve deletes. 2.5" open exhaust. ADP Turbo swap. 1-stage nitrous kit. THROWN ROD

Reply #53September 06, 2010, 04:51:41 am

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« Reply #53 on: September 06, 2010, 04:51:41 am »
bringing this thread up reminds me - i have to pass a VI this week and i had it inspected. They said for safety reasons, unknown to my self, i needed a "cat/muffler". So im going to add a cherry bomb and if they don't like it i'll ask them to explain to me how its safety related.
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Blacked out mk2 AAZ Jetta RIP. You are missed.
White 1999.5 ALH Golf 2dr. Low & wide. Rammed off the road RIP.
Blue 2009 CR140 Jetta CBEA/CJAA. Malone stage 2. EGR/DPF/Exhaust-valve deletes. 2.5" open exhaust. ADP Turbo swap. 1-stage nitrous kit. THROWN ROD

Reply #54September 06, 2010, 10:55:17 am

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Re: Lets have a muffler thread
« Reply #54 on: September 06, 2010, 10:55:17 am »
I love that most of this "muffler" thread is about people not running a muffler. ;) Espousing the old "a turbo is a muffler" adage are we?

Anyway I actually do run a muffler. Set up as listed in my sig is K14 into a Techtonis made 2.5" SS downpipe and exhaust. My muffler is a Borla so when I say full stainless steel, I mean full stainless steel. ;D
It sounds great, throaty, but not too loud. Most of the noise I hear is the diesel clack and the intake.

For the month I had the intake in the raintray it was so mind-numbingly loud it sounded like a city bus inside of the car under any boost. I think the intake setup has just as much, if not more to do with how these engines sound, especially inside the passenger compartment.
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AAZ, K14, Giles pump, PD150 intake, P&P'd head, ceramic coated pistons, 2.5" stainless down pipe & exhaust. FK coils

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Reply #55September 06, 2010, 11:07:54 am

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Re: Lets have a muffler thread
« Reply #55 on: September 06, 2010, 11:07:54 am »
Correct Jack !


I went and found a  1.6 TD airbox assy

The bad was I had to make a mold for the two different Turbo inlet sizes
87.50 for a new 1.6TD snorkel is fair

Now if we could get someone to make a Carbon fiber airbox based on the original design

I dont care for any intake noise on the freeway, I do like the whistle spin of the Turbo thou...

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Reply #56September 06, 2010, 12:46:45 pm

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Re: Lets have a muffler thread
« Reply #56 on: September 06, 2010, 12:46:45 pm »
the intake growl is the best part.. no gasser growls like a diesel does while under boost..
i can deal with intake noise. my intake is wide open and free flowing. just like my exhaust, or lack there of.
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #57September 06, 2010, 01:03:42 pm

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« Reply #57 on: September 06, 2010, 01:03:42 pm »
The exhaust sounds awesome on these engines, intake too, particularly with a turbo whistling under the hood
The noise that bugs me is the clattering though! Particularly due to my short tranny (3000rpm at 110km/h), that drives me nuts

enough boost is when you have 3 dimple marks in the hood from the valve cover nuts..  ;D

Reply #58September 06, 2010, 01:59:47 pm

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« Reply #58 on: September 06, 2010, 01:59:47 pm »
Well not only did a few people on TDI club say it will kill my turbo, the exhaust shop tried to convince me to keep my cat on for BP or my turbo will die.
And i have a boost gage waiting to get installed i just need some clamps for the hose before i start and have had no luck finding them.
The only reason i worried, this being my first turbocharged car, was i can now hear the turbo spool at idle. Sounded like that could be overspooling.
With the EG now moving faster out of the exhaust, it could spin the turbine just a bit faster at idle, and take longer to spool down. But i also thought that the intake side would provide quite a bit of resistance to wheel speed since it will need to compress air.... its all very up in the air to me, i can see both sides of the argument.

Also for anyone in the edmonton area, i got my pipe dont at sherwood exhaust. Its drop in only so just show up and he will fit you in. Took about 30 minutes for him to do it, 210 dollars. 2 1/4 inch.

And eddy, if your looking for mk2 diesel parts a brand new mk2 just came into the pick and pull here in chilliwack 2 days ago, if you hurry you might be able to find some useful stuff for your build if it still needs some spare parts.

Reply #59September 06, 2010, 02:24:13 pm

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« Reply #59 on: September 06, 2010, 02:24:13 pm »
dude, i have a VNT17 on my car. it came off a car with a cat, resonator, and muffler, along with alot of other things. it has literally less than 1 foot of exhaust coming off it. its been like this for years now. and my turbo works as good now as the day i put it on.

i want factual evidence as to why it will grenade your turbo. and whoever told you that you need the cat for back pressure is smoking crack. the turbo makes all the back pressure you could ever need.

i ran my VNT clear up to almost 40 psi, way out of the efficiency range, and way more than a unmodified TDI could push it, and it still does great. if its so bad to cut the muff/cat/res off, then why are all the full size chevys/fords/dodges that have it done not going thru turbos like wildfire?

whoever told you that open exhaust after the turbo is a bad idea, is also on something..

anyone on here will tell you otherwise, because most of us are running straight pipes..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.