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Reply #15July 24, 2009, 11:41:52 am

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« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2009, 11:41:52 am »
hmm, cause there was a white rocco for sale outside of portland, was a pretty pimpin car. came with 2 engines too. no diesels tho, so i passed on it. ended up calling on an 83 Audi 5000 TD.

Reply #16July 25, 2009, 10:43:53 am

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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2009, 10:43:53 am »
well..... it just keeps getting better. Car wont even start this morning. :'(. I'm guessing that there really was gunk in the injector pump and leaving the diesel purge in it for two days did a really good job of loosening it up. Good enough to send it straight to the injectors. Here is what I have planned to check. Glow plugs.. even though it's 80 and beautiful and I doubt that I would even need the glow plugs. Compression test, as its always good to know the condition of your cylinders. And rebuild the injectors because I don't know if these have ever been rebuilt before, but if they haven't after 200000 miles they could use it. At this point I'm willing to do anything to get my car back on the road. Any suggestions on anything else I should try.
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Reply #17July 25, 2009, 10:57:55 am

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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2009, 10:57:55 am »
well..... it just keeps getting better. Car wont even start this morning. :'(. I'm guessing that there really was gunk in the injector pump and leaving the diesel purge in it for two days did a really good job of loosening it up. Good enough to send it straight to the injectors. Here is what I have planned to check. Glow plugs.. even though it's 80 and beautiful and I doubt that I would even need the glow plugs. Compression test, as its always good to know the condition of your cylinders. And rebuild the injectors because I don't know if these have ever been rebuilt before, but if they haven't after 200000 miles they could use it. At this point I'm willing to do anything to get my car back on the road. Any suggestions on anything else I should try.

the diesel purge shouldn't be left inside the pump... you should run the engine with varying rpm's while on pure diesel purge.  that stuff can clean clogged injectors pretty good.  i don't think that the injectors can get so clogged that the engine won't run though.  your problem lies somewhere else in the system.  does it sputter? does it catch at all?


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Reply #18July 25, 2009, 11:09:13 am

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« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2009, 11:09:13 am »
sputters a little bit but not even close to starting. Thing is ran the diesel purge through it until It ran out. Then reattached the fuel lines and let it sit. Figured that leaving the diesel purge in over night should degunk anything thats in there. tried to start it this morning, wouldn't start. Bleed the injectors still wont start. ??? I figured clogged injectors. Any ideas
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Reply #19July 25, 2009, 07:35:34 pm

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« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2009, 07:35:34 pm »
sputters a little bit but not even close to starting. Thing is ran the diesel purge through it until It ran out. Then reattached the fuel lines and let it sit. Figured that leaving the diesel purge in over night should degunk anything thats in there. tried to start it this morning, wouldn't start. Bleed the injectors still wont start. ??? I figured clogged injectors. Any ideas

Are you sure the fuel solenoid is opening far enough, someone else here had a problem like that recently, it clicked but evidently the plunger stuck.  If you're not sure just take out the plunger and the spring and see if it starts.  You will have to stall the engine somehow to stop it though.

Reply #20July 25, 2009, 10:17:01 pm

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« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2009, 10:17:01 pm »
I'll give that a try. But I'm getting fuel to the injectors as i cracked the lines to bleed the fuel out. So that means the fuel cutoff should be open. Guess its worth checking though.
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Reply #21July 26, 2009, 04:34:59 am

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« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2009, 04:34:59 am »
sputters a little bit but not even close to starting. Thing is ran the diesel purge through it until It ran out. Then reattached the fuel lines and let it sit. Figured that leaving the diesel purge in over night should degunk anything thats in there. tried to start it this morning, wouldn't start. Bleed the injectors still wont start. ??? I figured clogged injectors. Any ideas

Are you sure the fuel solenoid is opening far enough, someone else here had a problem like that recently, it clicked but evidently the plunger stuck.  If you're not sure just take out the plunger and the spring and see if it starts.  You will have to stall the engine somehow to stop it though.

Or a screwdriver will work as a plunger.

Reply #22July 26, 2009, 10:37:07 am

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« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2009, 10:37:07 am »
Or a screwdriver will work as a plunger.

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Reply #23July 26, 2009, 11:36:41 am

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« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2009, 11:36:41 am »
I have been able to turn mine on and off with no seliniod with a screwdriver...don't know if it is good or not.

Reply #24July 26, 2009, 05:48:30 pm

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« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2009, 05:48:30 pm »
I have been able to turn mine on and off with no seliniod with a screwdriver...don't know if it is good or not.
Are we talking about the fuel solenoid, I can't imagine it running at all without one in the hole just to keep fuel from blowing out.

Reply #25July 26, 2009, 09:42:17 pm

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« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2009, 09:42:17 pm »
Anyone know what size wrench is needed to remove the cut of solenoid. I'll be heading over to the HF to buy some "junk" I mean tools tomorrow.
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