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July 12, 2009, 03:10:45 pm

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suitable replacment turbo for my 1.6, which car from?
« on: July 12, 2009, 03:10:45 pm »
the turbo on my 1.6 TD is shafted and i'm looking for a cheap replacement but is there any other makes or models of cars i could use the turbo from? i'd like to 'upgrade' at the same time as well, can't think which my turbo is off the top of my head but its a pritty small one so if any one could suggest a car i could get a fairly big turbo from that would be great. i can get a garret T4 from a petrol turbo but i'm guessing that this would be unsuitable for a diesel?

Reply #1July 12, 2009, 05:10:03 pm

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Re: suitable replacment turbo for my 1.6, which car from?
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2009, 05:10:03 pm »
Can a 1.6 even adequately spool a T4? I think you will have to rev the engine really high to get the power from a turbo that big.

a T3 would be a better match for you, from what I've read.

Reply #2July 12, 2009, 07:51:09 pm

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Re: suitable replacment turbo for my 1.6, which car from?
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2009, 07:51:09 pm »
It comes down to where you want your power. Off the line or in the upper rpm range (2750+)
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Reply #3July 13, 2009, 09:59:17 am

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Re: suitable replacment turbo for my 1.6, which car from?
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2009, 09:59:17 am »
i only mentioned the T4 because it would be free, didn't think there would be much chance of it being any good for my engine after seeing how big it is.

does any one know what other cars the T3 (or some thing like it) came on so i know what cars to look for being broken on the net or in scrap yards?

Reply #4July 13, 2009, 10:46:40 am

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Re: suitable replacment turbo for my 1.6, which car from?
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2009, 10:46:40 am »
like 99% of turbo cars in the 80's and 90's came with a T3. probably the most plentiful and common turbo on the face of the earth. put a Mercedes 300TD turbo on there. they are pretty close to the same as the t3 we already have, but they flow more but have a worse spool time.

Reply #5July 13, 2009, 12:56:20 pm

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Re: suitable replacment turbo for my 1.6, which car from?
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2009, 12:56:20 pm »
like 99% of turbo cars in the 80's and 90's came with a T3. probably the most plentiful and common turbo on the face of the earth.


not according to ebay.co.uk unfortunately and most of the used garrets on ebay just say what car they are off and have very little details on them, so if i have an idea which car i'm looking for i have more of an idea if its worth ending a message to get more details about it.

Reply #6July 13, 2009, 02:03:39 pm

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Re: suitable replacment turbo for my 1.6, which car from?
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2009, 02:03:39 pm »
Drop a t3 or kkk k24 in her.
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Reply #7July 13, 2009, 02:13:44 pm

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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2009, 02:13:44 pm »
andy2 said a merc 300 turbo is a suitable performance turbo for our engines. its got a bit more lag than a standard T3, but it has quite a bit more flow. it has alot bigger compressor wheel in it than our turbos do, thats where the extra lag comes from. it has a bigger inlet and outlet tho, so you will need different hoses to hook it up.

Reply #8July 13, 2009, 06:06:28 pm

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Re: suitable replacment turbo for my 1.6, which car from?
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2009, 06:06:28 pm »
If you are in the UK you have more options avail to you.  How about a gt1749va or 1749vb and a 1.9 head on top with a 1Y non egr manifold?  Zoom zoom!
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Reply #9July 13, 2009, 06:35:57 pm

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Re: suitable replacment turbo for my 1.6, which car from?
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2009, 06:35:57 pm »
What is actualy wrong with your turbo?  On my original t3 the wastegate cannister was shot and since there aren't any parts for these things I got a rebuilt turbo with a Stage 1 upgrade which was a bigger compressor wheel.  It was a big mistake and although the turbo is actualy OK I believe, it would require the fuel to be turned up too high to make any boost.  I never saw over 5 psi. out of it.  I put the old original t3 back on after I lapped the valve and did away with the wastegate altogether since I found out on here you really don't need the thing anyway since it rarely sees over 10 psi. and it's twice the turbo the bigger one is.  I'd stay stock unless you are willing to put up with a lot of smoke and lousy mileage  ;)
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Reply #10July 13, 2009, 11:04:11 pm

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Re: suitable replacment turbo for my 1.6, which car from?
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2009, 11:04:11 pm »
What is actualy wrong with your turbo?  On my original t3 the wastegate cannister was shot and since there aren't any parts for these things I got a rebuilt turbo with a Stage 1 upgrade which was a bigger compressor wheel.  It was a big mistake and although the turbo is actualy OK I believe, it would require the fuel to be turned up too high to make any boost.  I never saw over 5 psi. out of it.  I put the old original t3 back on after I lapped the valve and did away with the wastegate altogether since I found out on here you really don't need the thing anyway since it rarely sees over 10 psi. and it's twice the turbo the bigger one is.  I'd stay stock unless you are willing to put up with a lot of smoke and lousy mileage  ;)


the fan blades keep hitting the housing when it comes on boost. i think the pump has been messed about with any way because there is already a lot of black smoke and poor mileage.

Reply #11July 14, 2009, 10:56:13 am

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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2009, 10:56:13 am »
the compressor hits the housing? just send yours off to get re built. or re bearing it your self.

Reply #12July 14, 2009, 11:53:07 am

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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2009, 11:53:07 am »
the compressor hits the housing? just send yours off to get re built. or re bearing it your self.

how much are bearings for them and where would i get them from?


i've just had a look and my turbo is a KKK K24, are these any good? what kinda psi can they boost too? i was hoping to run around 30 psi once i've done a few things too the engine, would this be achievable with a K24?

Reply #13July 14, 2009, 12:16:26 pm

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Re: suitable replacment turbo for my 1.6, which car from?
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2009, 12:16:26 pm »
30 psi is a bit too high for the k24. You should look at a larger turbo if you want to run that high.
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Reply #14July 14, 2009, 12:22:54 pm

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Re: suitable replacment turbo for my 1.6, which car from?
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2009, 12:22:54 pm »
I hit 20psi with my k24 on stock fueling and plugged waste gate.