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February 21, 2009, 04:23:33 pm

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« on: February 21, 2009, 04:23:33 pm »
Hey I wanted to know if anyone has a diagram or pictures of a adapter to use the cummins fuel filter on a 1.9TD. I have access to a machine shop, just need a little direction with this.

Reply #1February 22, 2009, 12:07:42 pm

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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2009, 12:07:42 pm »
you could always use the CAT 1 micron filter.. all you need to make is a bracket to hold it in place (home depot will have everything you need)


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Reply #2February 22, 2009, 01:21:00 pm

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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2009, 01:21:00 pm »
I believe most truck filters have the same size fitting so if you go to a truck supply shop, get a racor/parker filter stand and you'll be able to just screw it on. Otherwise an adapter will have to be machined. I looked for a while for pre made adapters with zero luck.
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Reply #3February 22, 2009, 04:51:35 pm

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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2009, 04:51:35 pm »
The reason I want to use the cummins filter is that it is made to be the only filter in the system. Where as the cat filter is made to have a water seperator inline with it. This is research that was done and written about by QuickTD, I was at his place getting a crank machined a while back and I remember looking at his set-up, but I never inquired about it until I did my searching. I have access to a full machine shop and I have the skills to machine/design a bracket for it. I will be getting a stock bracket off a N14 cummins motor, I will just have to figure something out for the pre-heater......any ideas?

Reply #4February 22, 2009, 05:58:34 pm

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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2009, 05:58:34 pm »
I would think he easiest and cheapest way to have a preheater is buy either a 12V or 120V filter blanket. Actually i think the 12v would be a wrap around and the 120V could be a small stick-on block heater. I've used both, with equal results but prefer the 120v so there's no killing the battery.
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Reply #5February 22, 2009, 06:12:03 pm

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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2009, 06:12:03 pm »
The only other thing I thought of was that the stock VW filter has a fitting for the return...where if I remember correctly the cummins one only has in and out. I would have to drill into the bracket so that the fuel can return. I would like some input from someone that has done this so that Im not messing around with this for ages. Once I have the parts in my hand I will see what I can do.

Reply #6February 22, 2009, 06:12:29 pm

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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2009, 06:12:29 pm »
This place has all the heating stuff you should probably ever want.
http://www.fattywagons.com/fwproducts.htm

Enjoy!

Reply #7February 22, 2009, 07:46:39 pm

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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2009, 07:46:39 pm »
Quote from: "theman53"
This place has all the heating stuff you should probably ever want.
http://www.fattywagons.com/fwproducts.htm

Enjoy!


thats a pretty cool site.  the inline heaters seem quite reasonably priced :) are those thermostatically controlled though???


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Reply #8February 22, 2009, 08:31:18 pm

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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2009, 08:31:18 pm »
if you get a 04.5+ cummins you will only need banjo fitting to adapt.


here is my 04 set-up...I had to fab a little adapter to make the old style work...if you gonna do it find a newer filter housing(04.5+)






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Reply #9February 23, 2009, 09:17:09 am

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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2009, 09:17:09 am »
Thanks for the pics.
I plan on using a screw on type filter from a N14 cummins along with the bracket...I looked up the bracket in a parts catalog I have and it has npt fittings on it, I think. Im gonna get a bracket from a junk yard. I will just have to mess around with:
1) mounting the bracket to the car.....not a big deal
2) going from threaderd fittings to the stock fuel lines in the car....not really a big deal either.

I will be collecting parts soon and I will take pics.

Reply #10February 23, 2009, 09:52:27 am

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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2009, 09:52:27 am »
Quote from: "g-spec"
Thanks for the pics.
I plan on using a screw on type filter from a N14 cummins along with the bracket...I looked up the bracket in a parts catalog I have and it has npt fittings on it, I think. Im gonna get a bracket from a junk yard. I will just have to mess around with:
1) mounting the bracket to the car.....not a big deal
2) going from threaderd fittings to the stock fuel lines in the car....not really a big deal either.

I will be collecting parts soon and I will take pics.


nice please do post some pics when your done!!




just a FYI for anybody else reading this or researching fuel set-ups...the Dodge cummins fuel filter has a 5 micron filter option too.(baldwinn makes a 5 micron vs the stock fleetguard being a 7 micron.)

Reply #11February 23, 2009, 01:27:11 pm

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« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2009, 01:27:11 pm »
Anyone know if I would need a lift pump for this setup??? due to the increased filtration I would think that the IP would have a harder time pulling fuel throught the filter???

Reply #12February 23, 2009, 02:19:33 pm

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« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2009, 02:19:33 pm »
Quote from: "g-spec"
Anyone know if I would need a lift pump for this setup??? due to the increased filtration I would think that the IP would have a harder time pulling fuel throught the filter???


as long as your system isn't restricted in any way up until the filter, it should be okay.  1 micron filters will probably require a lift pump though...  if you want to go ahead and install a lift pump anyway, it wouldn't be a bad idea. just $$$.


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Reply #13February 23, 2009, 05:38:26 pm

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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2009, 05:38:26 pm »
any recommendations on lift pumps??? is there one I would be able to grab at the junk yard? I dont realy want to invest too much money into a $200 car. hahahaa Any diesels come with one stock?? I have never looked into lift pumps.

I just found this using google....would something like this work???
http://hartford.kijiji.com/c-Cars-vehicles-Classic-cars-LOW-PRESSURE-FUEL-PUMP-W0QQAdIdZ83752799

Reply #14February 24, 2009, 05:52:18 am

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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2009, 05:52:18 am »
That's basically what I'm using on my conversion project
http://vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=15633&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

I have an aux switch to power this lift pump... you should not need it unless:  You ran out of fuel and need to prime the system, Changed your filter and need a prime, you have a _small_ leak between the IP and the fuel pick-up, its really cold and you have some contaminate partially blocking your filter....