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• Cummins fuel filter - QuickTD looking to you for this. by g-spec on 21 Feb, 2009 16:23
• Hey I wanted to know if anyone has a diagram or pictures of a adapter to use the cummins fuel filter on a 1.9TD. I have access to a machine shop, just need a little direction with this.
• #1 by jtanguay on 22 Feb, 2009 12:07
• you could always use the CAT 1 micron filter.. all you need to make is a bracket to hold it in place (home depot will have everything you need)
• #2 by the caveman on 22 Feb, 2009 13:21
• I believe most truck filters have the same size fitting so if you go to a truck supply shop, get a racor/parker filter stand and you'll be able to just screw it on. Otherwise an adapter will have to be machined. I looked for a while for pre made adapters with zero luck.
• #3 by g-spec on 22 Feb, 2009 16:51
• The reason I want to use the cummins filter is that it is made to be the only filter in the system. Where as the cat filter is made to have a water seperator inline with it. This is research that was done and written about by QuickTD, I was at his place getting a crank machined a while back and I remember looking at his set-up, but I never inquired about it until I did my searching. I have access to a full machine shop and I have the skills to machine/design a bracket for it. I will be getting a stock bracket off a N14 cummins motor, I will just have to figure something out for the pre-heater......any ideas?
• #4 by the caveman on 22 Feb, 2009 17:58
• I would think he easiest and cheapest way to have a preheater is buy either a 12V or 120V filter blanket. Actually i think the 12v would be a wrap around and the 120V could be a small stick-on block heater. I've used both, with equal results but prefer the 120v so there's no killing the battery.
• #5 by g-spec on 22 Feb, 2009 18:12
• The only other thing I thought of was that the stock VW filter has a fitting for the return...where if I remember correctly the cummins one only has in and out. I would have to drill into the bracket so that the fuel can return. I would like some input from someone that has done this so that Im not messing around with this for ages. Once I have the parts in my hand I will see what I can do.
• #6 by theman53 on 22 Feb, 2009 18:12
• This place has all the heating stuff you should probably ever want.
  http://www.fattywagons.com/fwproducts.htm
  
  Enjoy!
• #7 by jtanguay on 22 Feb, 2009 19:46
• Quote from: "theman53"

  This place has all the heating stuff you should probably ever want.
  http://www.fattywagons.com/fwproducts.htm
  
  Enjoy!

  
  
  thats a pretty cool site.  the inline heaters seem quite reasonably priced are those thermostatically controlled though???
• #8 by 53 willys on 22 Feb, 2009 20:31
• if you get a 04.5+ cummins you will only need banjo fitting to adapt.
  
  
  here is my 04 set-up...I had to fab a little adapter to make the old style work...if you gonna do it find a newer filter housing(04.5+)
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Drain
  
  
• #9 by g-spec on 23 Feb, 2009 09:17
• Thanks for the pics.
  I plan on using a screw on type filter from a N14 cummins along with the bracket...I looked up the bracket in a parts catalog I have and it has npt fittings on it, I think. Im gonna get a bracket from a junk yard. I will just have to mess around with:
  1) mounting the bracket to the car.....not a big deal
  2) going from threaderd fittings to the stock fuel lines in the car....not really a big deal either.
  
  I will be collecting parts soon and I will take pics.
• #10 by 53 willys on 23 Feb, 2009 09:52
• Quote from: "g-spec"

  Thanks for the pics.
  I plan on using a screw on type filter from a N14 cummins along with the bracket...I looked up the bracket in a parts catalog I have and it has npt fittings on it, I think. Im gonna get a bracket from a junk yard. I will just have to mess around with:
  1) mounting the bracket to the car.....not a big deal
  2) going from threaderd fittings to the stock fuel lines in the car....not really a big deal either.
  
  I will be collecting parts soon and I will take pics.

  
  
  nice please do post some pics when your done!!
  
  
  
  
  just a FYI for anybody else reading this or researching fuel set-ups...the Dodge cummins fuel filter has a 5 micron filter option too.(baldwinn makes a 5 micron vs the stock fleetguard being a 7 micron.)
• #11 by g-spec on 23 Feb, 2009 13:27
• Anyone know if I would need a lift pump for this setup??? due to the increased filtration I would think that the IP would have a harder time pulling fuel throught the filter???
• #12 by jtanguay on 23 Feb, 2009 14:19
• Quote from: "g-spec"

  Anyone know if I would need a lift pump for this setup??? due to the increased filtration I would think that the IP would have a harder time pulling fuel throught the filter???

  
  
  as long as your system isn't restricted in any way up until the filter, it should be okay.  1 micron filters will probably require a lift pump though...  if you want to go ahead and install a lift pump anyway, it wouldn't be a bad idea. just $$$.
• #13 by g-spec on 23 Feb, 2009 17:38
• any recommendations on lift pumps??? is there one I would be able to grab at the junk yard? I dont realy want to invest too much money into a $200 car. hahahaa Any diesels come with one stock?? I have never looked into lift pumps.
  
  I just found this using google....would something like this work???
  http://hartford.kijiji.com/c-Cars-vehicles-Classic-cars-LOW-PRESSURE-FUEL-PUMP-W0QQAdIdZ83752799
• #14 by arb on 24 Feb, 2009 05:52
• That's basically what I'm using on my conversion project
  http://vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=15633&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
  
  I have an aux switch to power this lift pump... you should not need it unless:  You ran out of fuel and need to prime the system, Changed your filter and need a prime, you have a _small_ leak between the IP and the fuel pick-up, its really cold and you have some contaminate partially blocking your filter....