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• My engine recipe...tell me if I'm nuts by thedeezel on 02 Apr, 2008 08:54
• Ok here is what I have planned for building my engine...
  
  92' 1.6td shortblock (honed and re-ringed)
  1.9td cylinder head (rebuilt)
  k24 turbo and manifold (port matched)
  custom tubular intake manifold
  84' 1.6td IP (possibly going to GILES for a re-build)
  2.5" downpipe and full 2.5" exhaust
  1.9td headgasket
  
  I am loking for good power and reliability, do you guys think this would be a good combination, if not what would you change.
  
  I have the IP and shortblock already, working on getting the rest ordered.
  
  Looking at having around $1800-$2000 max in the motor, to go into a $200 two door body
• #1 by myke_w on 02 Apr, 2008 09:23
• Check your piston to wall clearance or ring end gap with a new ring, most blocks I've seen come through my shop need bored because they are so worn, and the rering thing works ok for about 10-20k miles, but they start blowing smoke again shortly thereafter
• #2 by thedeezel on 02 Apr, 2008 09:58
• I was planning on measuring everything and going form there, the shortblock is supposed to be a relatively low mileage engine,i am going to put a head gasket and head on it and do a compression test to evaluate it, i know it wont be a perfect test, but it will give me a decent idea of where I am starting.
• #3 by myke_w on 02 Apr, 2008 10:03
• Quote from: "thedeezel"

  I'll try being nicer, if you try being smarter...

  
  
  Very Funny! LOL
• #4 by thedeezel on 02 Apr, 2008 10:30
• oddly, it applies to lots of people I deal with everyday, sad really.
  
  Mike, I have seen that you deal in parts for these things, can you send me a list of prices.
  
  I would be looking for oversized pistons and rings, new valves (td).
• #5 by myke_w on 02 Apr, 2008 13:15
• Heres my list,
  
  http://www.thedubdoctor.com/parts_site/idiparts.html
  
  brands I carry are all the best quality available, mostly of German origin... you need to decide what head gasket you want. Especially pay attention to the main bearings, the integrated collar type are trouble. Don't even think about not doing intermediate shaft bearings, they are a big source of low / no oil pressure.
  
  also, If you do pistons you need the piston pin bushings.
• #6 by jtanguay on 02 Apr, 2008 14:10
• if you could get your hands on a T3 turbo i would go that route, if not the K24 will do.  more oomph in the upper rpm range  :twisted:
• #7 by burn_your_money on 02 Apr, 2008 16:47
• there is a brand new T3 on vortex for around $400
• #8 by RabbitJockey on 02 Apr, 2008 19:16
• thats about what i'm going to do, you should get some good power out of this setup, i hope to, the only thing i would change would be to add an intercooler if ur not already.
• #9 by thedeezel on 02 Apr, 2008 20:06
• I am planning on a FMIC, I've heard the packaging can be hard on a MK1, but with the custom front bumper I have planned I will be able to fit one in.  I am hoping for 100hp and 150 ft lbs.  That is somewhere around the output of my 06 TDI Jetta, in a car that weighs a lot less.  :twisted:
  I was planning on a 1.9 AAZ head gasket, but I also found a place that will cut a solid copper sheet gasket, I will also be using ARP main and head studs.
• #10 by RabbitJockey on 02 Apr, 2008 20:39
• u should be able to make those numbers with out the 1.9  head no problem haha.
• #11 by Torchd on 02 Apr, 2008 23:43
• So Myke_w....
  
  What should be the ring end gap with new rings on a 1.6TD and a 1.9TD??
  
  
  

  Quote from: "myke_w"

  Check your piston to wall clearance or ring end gap with a new ring, most blocks I've seen come through my shop need bored because they are so worn, and the rering thing works ok for about 10-20k miles, but they start blowing smoke again shortly thereafter
• #12 by Torchd on 02 Apr, 2008 23:47
• And what kinda numbers should i be looking at with the following setup?
  
  1.6 turbo (MF)
  1.6 TD IP (used)
  1.6 GTD new nozzles.
  1.9 rebuillt head
  1.9 Rebuilt Block.
  
  
  ??
• #13 by jtanguay on 03 Apr, 2008 04:46
• you could squeeze 150hp out of that no prob.  don't forget a larger downpipe to keep your egt's down.
• #14 by Torchd on 03 Apr, 2008 04:57
• whaaaattt??  really?? Are you talking about my engine or the dezel's engine??  i'll be wayy too happy with thatt!!
  
  but are you sure i'll get that kinda bhp?
  
  Note that all components are stock including the IP....i am also adding a 3" turbo back straight exhaust. and will prolly add an intercooler later!
  
  Do you know whcih Turbo the MF engine has?