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• Non-ac brackets by veeman on 05 Apr, 2005 06:09
• I'd like to convert my 1.6 TD to the non-ac pulley setup.  I've done this on the gas engines, but it occurs to me that I won't be able to use the same brackets because the injection pump is in the way.
  
  Does anyone have pics of a non-ac type bracket setup?  I'd imagine the pulleys and the alt adjustment bracket are different.  Better yet, anyone have a setup to sell?  
  
  Thanks in advance
• #1 by chrissev on 05 Apr, 2005 11:48
• Quote from: "veeman"

  I'd like to convert my 1.6 TD to the non-ac pulley setup.  I've done this on the gas engines, but it occurs to me that I won't be able to use the same brackets because the injection pump is in the way.
  
  Does anyone have pics of a non-ac type bracket setup?  I'd imagine the pulleys and the alt adjustment bracket are different.  Better yet, anyone have a setup to sell?  
  
  Thanks in advance

  
  
  well, the biggest problem you'll have is removing and installing the top two bolts that hold the bracket on.  Not sure if you've tried this yet or not, but just to prime you for it, it is lots of fun.  The diesel non A/C alternator bracket is indeed quite different from the gas one.  They are also quite hard to come by since most people who have one want to sell them with the engine.  You might be able to sneak one past a scrap yard counterperson who doesn't know what it is.  Forget about used parts stores, they won't take them off the engines.
• #2 by vwmike on 05 Apr, 2005 13:14
• When I find a diesel at the yard, most of the time it does not have A/C. Actually, neither of my diesels have A/C either. I never even thought about it being something that somebody would want so maybe I'll grab it next time I come across a setup.
• #3 by veeman on 05 Apr, 2005 13:40
• VWMike...
  
  Can you post a pic of your engine bay without AC?  I've never even seen the non-ac bracket.
  
  Definitely grab those setups!  I'm sure I'm not the only one to want these.
• #4 by fatmobile on 06 Apr, 2005 02:48
• I sent you a link to the one I just bought on ebay.
   You also need the crank and waterpump pullys and the longneck alternator pully .... for the A1 setup anyway. I saw a COMPLETE setup, bolts and all, go for around $117 on ebay.
   Don't forget the small bracket on top that connects to the upper timing belt cover.
   Most sellers don't include this.
• #5 by fspGTD on 06 Apr, 2005 10:07
• Here's what an A1 diesel non-A/C alternator bracket looks like:
  
• #6 by vwmike on 06 Apr, 2005 23:16
• Sorry I didn't get a chance to take any pictures today. I'll try and snap a couple tomorrow and get them hosted.
• #7 by fatmobile on 07 Apr, 2005 01:11
• There's one of the early, welded steel, non-AC alternator brackets on ebay now ... and it's not cracked :shock: .
   You need an early style injection pump bracket to work with it ... and they didn't include the small upper bracket so it's about worthless.
• #8 by chrissev on 07 Apr, 2005 08:54
• Quote from: "veeman"

  I'd like to convert my 1.6 TD to the non-ac pulley setup.  I've done this on the gas engines, but it occurs to me that I won't be able to use the same brackets because the injection pump is in the way.
  
  Does anyone have pics of a non-ac type bracket setup?  I'd imagine the pulleys and the alt adjustment bracket are different.  Better yet, anyone have a setup to sell?  
  
  Thanks in advance

  
  
  
  I uploaded 3 pics of my non AC bracket to imagestation.  Unfortunately have no idea how to post them here.  Here is the link:
  http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2128422166
• #9 by veeman on 07 Apr, 2005 11:14
• >>I uploaded 3 pics of my non AC bracket to imagestation. Unfortunately have no idea how to post them here.
  
  Those pics look great.  Thanks!  To post them, you might need to have a "hosting site" that can link to this forum.   I can post them if you like.
• #10 by chrissev on 07 Apr, 2005 12:29
• Quote from: "veeman"

  >>I uploaded 3 pics of my non AC bracket to imagestation. Unfortunately have no idea how to post them here.
  
  Those pics look great.  Thanks!  To post them, you might need to have a "hosting site" that can link to this forum.   I can post them if you like.

  
  
  sure, go ahead.  If you need any explanations of stuff that you see in those pics, just ask.  I've had the entire front of the engine accessories off of that car (removed injection pump, alternator bracket, water pump) so I can tell you anything you need to know about how it all goes together.  
  
  Chris
• #11 by vwmike on 07 Apr, 2005 15:00
• Ok, here is my truck - it's an '81 with the CR 1.6.
  
  
  
  Here's the Jetta - '88 1.6TD MF code engine (yes, I know it has a fram filter. It was on there when I bought it and I haven't changed the oil yet). It also has power steering whereas the truck does not.
  
  
  
• #12 by veeman on 08 Apr, 2005 05:40
• Wow... thanks guys!   That definitely helps.
  
  I'm having trouble identifying the "small top bracket" that others have remarked about?  It's the one that the timing belt cover attaches to.  Is this it?
  
  
  
  Here's another view from chrissev's pics...
  
  
  
  These things are pretty rare around here.  I'm not sure I've even seen any diesels in a yard during the last few years.
• #13 by fspGTD on 08 Apr, 2005 08:54
• Yep, that's the top bracket... it bridges the alternator bracket to timing pump bracket.  You can see there are two different versions of braketry systems - with A1 being different than A2.  By the way, the A2 has a clip-on two-piece upper timing belt cover whereas the A1 has a bolted on one-piece timing belt cover.
  
  These brackets are not that rare...  At least they aren't turbo-specific!
• #14 by fatmobile on 09 Apr, 2005 00:36
• I think that A2 non-AC alternator bracket is even more common than the diesel A1 style ... they used the same bracket AC or not right?
   Just changed the alternator, adjuster and belt ...right?
  ...and I think it's a 90 amp alternator.