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Reply #15September 12, 2011, 11:58:28 am

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Re: 1.6td shift points
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2011, 11:58:28 am »
Oh it most certainly isn't bad. The gasser 1.6 and 1.7 (with proper valve springs) could spin 8k rpm. They are more or less the exact same motor as the 1.6 diesels.. Diesels have a slightly more robust bottom, so they'll take whatever you throw at em. ;)

i think the cranks & rods are tougher on the diesel. and the pistons are most certainly much tougher than gasser pistons..

back in the day, people would slap a gas head on a diesel engine, and NOS the hell out of it..
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Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #16September 12, 2011, 03:07:13 pm

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« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2011, 03:07:13 pm »
Thanks for all your input everyone. I look forward to stretching my engine's legs a little more in the near future...then I've gotta get around to installing the VNT 15 I have sitting around for even more fun. Are any of you going to H20 int'l in Ocean City, MD later this month??? I'll be there.
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Reply #17September 12, 2011, 03:26:21 pm

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« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2011, 03:26:21 pm »
Thanks for all your input everyone. I look forward to stretching my engine's legs a little more in the near future...then I've gotta get around to installing the VNT 15 I have sitting around for even more fun. Are any of you going to H20 int'l in Ocean City, MD later this month??? I'll be there.

you have a VNT 15 and its not on your car?!?

i woulda done it already. its gonna be night and day different  ;)
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #18September 12, 2011, 03:34:54 pm

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« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2011, 03:34:54 pm »
I can't wait to get that VNT on, and a gasser intake as well. Should be a big wake up for it :)
'81 Caddy 1.6 TD

Reply #19September 12, 2011, 03:40:53 pm

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« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2011, 03:40:53 pm »
its gonna perform as good, if not better than my engine, because you have a REAL TD fuel pump.. i dont, but i DO have a fresh, modified n/a pump..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #20September 13, 2011, 08:41:56 pm

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« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2011, 08:41:56 pm »
REAL TD fuel pump.. i dont, but i DO have a fresh, modified n/a pump..

Same fueling capabilities. KEv, just put an LDA on your fresh na pump. BOOM a real TD pump appears out of thin air.

Reply #21September 13, 2011, 09:07:47 pm

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« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2011, 09:07:47 pm »
REAL TD fuel pump.. i dont, but i DO have a fresh, modified n/a pump..

Same fueling capabilities. KEv, just put an LDA on your fresh na pump. BOOM a real TD pump appears out of thin air.

I just went through this recently and found some snags in just putting my turbo pump on a good na body.

The delivery valves were smaller on na pump so the lines wouldn't reach the same?

Also as soon as I took the top off I found I could not seperate that governor arm from the groove like I have typically seen because it was one piece on the na pump, meaning I had to break it all down!  Ok in the end I guess since I resealed everything but I wanted it to be a quicker project.

I had another working but leaking turbo pump so I took that whole assembly with the turbo top and distribution head and it seems to be working on the car now.
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Reply #22September 13, 2011, 11:03:43 pm

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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2011, 11:03:43 pm »
are you sure you dont have an aaz pump?

they have larger delivery valves
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Reply #23September 14, 2011, 11:44:26 am

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« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2011, 11:44:26 am »
REAL TD fuel pump.. i dont, but i DO have a fresh, modified n/a pump..

Same fueling capabilities. KEv, just put an LDA on your fresh na pump. BOOM a real TD pump appears out of thin air.

wrong.. the n/a pump has a fuel limiter pin. ive made n/a fuel pumps into TD pumps before. i know what it takes..

gotta push that pin out of the way, or get rid of it all together..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #24September 14, 2011, 06:35:42 pm

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« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2011, 06:35:42 pm »
if it is so easy, why not do?

So the TD pump that I have an N/a top on right now.. is better than a normal na pump?

Reply #25September 14, 2011, 06:51:47 pm

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« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2011, 06:51:47 pm »
REAL TD fuel pump.. i dont, but i DO have a fresh, modified n/a pump..

Same fueling capabilities. KEv, just put an LDA on your fresh na pump. BOOM a real TD pump appears out of thin air.

wrong.. the n/a pump has a fuel limiter pin. ive made n/a fuel pumps into TD pumps before. i know what it takes..

gotta push that pin out of the way, or get rid of it all together..

I have a bosch Ip rebuild for our 4cyls and it showed a map that the td pump had a higher potential fuel output. stock that is.
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Reply #26September 14, 2011, 07:45:17 pm

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Re: 1.6td shift points
« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2011, 07:45:17 pm »
REAL TD fuel pump.. i dont, but i DO have a fresh, modified n/a pump..

Same fueling capabilities. KEv, just put an LDA on your fresh na pump. BOOM a real TD pump appears out of thin air.

wrong.. the n/a pump has a fuel limiter pin. ive made n/a fuel pumps into TD pumps before. i know what it takes..

gotta push that pin out of the way, or get rid of it all together..

I have a bosch Ip rebuild for our 4cyls and it showed a map that the td pump had a higher potential fuel output. stock that is.

because of the LDA..

un hook the LDA.. then a TD pump, and n/a pump would be exactly the same..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #27September 15, 2011, 07:52:24 am

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« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2011, 07:52:24 am »
unhook the LDA? iirc, the whole top just pops off and there was no difference in the bottom of the pumps between na and td.. but i could be wrong.

Reply #28September 15, 2011, 01:47:25 pm

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« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2011, 01:47:25 pm »
unhook the LDA? iirc, the whole top just pops off and there was no difference in the bottom of the pumps between na and td.. but i could be wrong.

all i was stating, was that the pumps are identical with no boost applied..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #29September 15, 2011, 01:51:18 pm

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« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2011, 01:51:18 pm »
are you sure you dont have an aaz pump?

they have larger delivery valves

No, I have multiple pumps from running vehicles that I compared, all the td's were the same and longer than the na?

I also forgot about that pin in the na body.  I grinded it away with a dremel
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