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Reply #60April 14, 2011, 08:59:34 pm

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« Reply #60 on: April 14, 2011, 08:59:34 pm »
Ha ha. That engine and trans are all just for mock up. Neither of them will be used. I thought that Andrew was talking about the holes in the body.
The engine and trans that will be used, are in my truck, which runs and drives. Its in the truck so I can drive it on the street leagally and be able to tune it. I'd hate to try and drive the Scirocco and tune it just on the track or dyno. That would be expensive. Allthough the Scirocco will hopefully be street legal and registered as a club/exhibitionist only vehicle. That way I can drive it to the track and car shows.
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Reply #61April 14, 2011, 09:06:05 pm

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« Reply #61 on: April 14, 2011, 09:06:05 pm »
Got the NOS bungs welded on to the boost pipe today. What do you think?
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Reply #62April 14, 2011, 09:31:55 pm

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« Reply #62 on: April 14, 2011, 09:31:55 pm »
That's gonna be one cold pipe and intake!!!

Reply #63April 14, 2011, 09:34:57 pm

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« Reply #63 on: April 14, 2011, 09:34:57 pm »
I might not even need an intercooler.
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Reply #64April 17, 2011, 08:11:07 am

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« Reply #64 on: April 17, 2011, 08:11:07 am »
I might not even need an intercooler.

im not gonna have my intercooler plumbed in whenever i got a bottle of gas..

i wanna get some sort of an intercooler like what you have. the A2W..

oh, do you still have the PT loozer intercooler by chance?
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Reply #65April 17, 2011, 08:47:58 pm

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« Reply #65 on: April 17, 2011, 08:47:58 pm »
No, I never had one but a friend did. I'll check if he still does.
I got the nitrous hooked up on Sat. I'm only running the one solenoid for now. I need to get some other things figured out first. Also noticed that my throttle cable is far too streched out to reach full throttle. Just adjusting it felt like 20HP. Really.
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I'm using an .018 inch jet, and don't really notice any differance right off the line and my EGTs are still at 1300F. Like I said, the throttle cable is too streched out, so a new one is in order before more tuning.
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Reply #66April 17, 2011, 11:07:03 pm

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« Reply #66 on: April 17, 2011, 11:07:03 pm »
Great job on the installation Josh. According to the dyno tune jet calculator, (for a wet system, not our dry system) the .018 jet is 15hp.The first jet I tried was .024=25hp.
With the .024 jet I only felt a slight acceleration until I turned in the  fuel screw about 1/4 turn (Na IP). Better but not what I hoped for so
I went to a .028 jet= 35 hp and another 1/4 turn on fuel screw, now I was getting somewhere so a month or so later I tried the .032 jet=50 hp with the fuel screw
3/4 to 1 turn from stock and am very pleased with the results. Also with the bottle off, no line pressure, key on engine off, arming switch on, floor throttle and verify solenoid click.
Takes a few seconds to purge air out of line after bottle change too.

Reply #67April 18, 2011, 08:56:48 am

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« Reply #67 on: April 18, 2011, 08:56:48 am »
Great job on the installation Josh. According to the dyno tune jet calculator, (for a wet system, not our dry system) the .018 jet is 15hp.The first jet I tried was .024=25hp.
With the .024 jet I only felt a slight acceleration until I turned in the  fuel screw about 1/4 turn (Na IP). Better but not what I hoped for so
I went to a .028 jet= 35 hp and another 1/4 turn on fuel screw, now I was getting somewhere so a month or so later I tried the .032 jet=50 hp with the fuel screw
3/4 to 1 turn from stock and am very pleased with the results. Also with the bottle off, no line pressure, key on engine off, arming switch on, floor throttle and verify solenoid click.
Takes a few seconds to purge air out of line after bottle change too.

i think i was using the 028 jet on my n/a 1.6

you could definitely feel the nitrous come on, with the n/a anyways..

and you guys are both correct about the throttle cable. the last 1/4" of pump travel is where it really starts building power on my car, but i run a n/a fuel pump, dunno if that really matter tho.
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Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #68April 18, 2011, 09:50:19 am

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« Reply #68 on: April 18, 2011, 09:50:19 am »
Can I ask what you used to bolt onto the end of the GTI inlet manifold to fit an intake instead of a throttle body? If I can make something up I may fit my spare GTI intake mani!

Reply #69April 18, 2011, 10:00:06 am

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« Reply #69 on: April 18, 2011, 10:00:06 am »
Can I ask what you used to bolt onto the end of the GTI inlet manifold to fit an intake instead of a throttle body? If I can make something up I may fit my spare GTI intake mani!

i took some aluminum scraps and made up an adapter..

just a flat chunk of aluminum plate, with a chunk of tubing welded to it so i could hook up my charge piping..

you HAVE TO have a low mounted turbo to run a gasser intake tho.. a stock, high mounted turbo will hit the intake badly.

basically, you have to run a TDI turbo of some sort, or flip your stock turbo and manifold..

you have a mk2 GTD dont you? T2 turbo mounted right behind the stock intake mani? if so, then its not an easy conversion to run a gasser intake..

i had to cut some mounting bosses off the intake, and grind a boss off the EGR hook up on the turbo, had to weld the EGR port closed also.. and that was with a VNT turbo, they mount REALLY LOW.
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
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86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
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Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #70April 18, 2011, 10:02:53 am

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« Reply #70 on: April 18, 2011, 10:02:53 am »
Far too much effort for me then! Just thought it would make my life a bit easier when it comes to fitting FMIC pipework. I thought my GTD would have a K14?

Reply #71April 18, 2011, 10:20:56 am

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« Reply #71 on: April 18, 2011, 10:20:56 am »
Far too much effort for me then! Just thought it would make my life a bit easier when it comes to fitting FMIC pipework. I thought my GTD would have a K14?

T2 and K14 are basically identical turbos, in terms of specifications, just made by different companys. i swear that more came with a T2 than a K14 tho, but i could be wrong..

as for the gasser intake, its FAR FROM a bolt-on-and-go affair..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #72April 18, 2011, 01:24:42 pm

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« Reply #72 on: April 18, 2011, 01:24:42 pm »
Thanks for the compliments. I made sure that the bottle was purged before fastening it to nozzle.
From a stand still, full throttle, nothing different happens untill turbo boost hits 10psi. Then black smoke rolles out till 20 something psi then clears. Thats most likely due to the nitrous helping to burn the excess fuel. But like I said, I need to figure out some different locations for boost ref., for boost controller, gauge and LDA ref. Right now the gauge and boost controller ref. is shared from same port on intake. The LDA is T'ed from the boost controll wastegate ref.to the boost box. Also a new Hobbs swt. that is adjustable from 5psi-15psi.
My intake manifold is from a Carrodo G60, but has been modified. The inlet adapter to manifold is from
BonBrennerMotorsport and is about $45. but mine was used and had holes in it, so it was free.
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Reply #73April 18, 2011, 02:03:27 pm

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« Reply #73 on: April 18, 2011, 02:03:27 pm »
Thanks for the compliments. I made sure that the bottle was purged before fastening it to nozzle.
From a stand still, full throttle, nothing different happens untill turbo boost hits 10psi. Then black smoke rolles out till 20 something psi then clears. Thats most likely due to the nitrous helping to burn the excess fuel. But like I said, I need to figure out some different locations for boost ref., for boost controller, gauge and LDA ref. Right now the gauge and boost controller ref. is shared from same port on intake. The LDA is T'ed from the boost controll wastegate ref.to the boost box. Also a new Hobbs swt. that is adjustable from 5psi-15psi.
My intake manifold is from a Carrodo G60, but has been modified. The inlet adapter to manifold is from
BonBrennerMotorsport and is about $45. but mine was used and had holes in it, so it was free.

I'm running less boost and a na pump, but the best way to feel the nitrous is to floor it and take it up to 50-55 mph in 4th gear, then flip the arming switch on and off a few times.
I take someone along to keep an eye on boost and egt so I can compare with and without nitrous. With the .018 jet you're only gonna feel a little nudge if anything.

Reply #74April 18, 2011, 08:34:22 pm

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« Reply #74 on: April 18, 2011, 08:34:22 pm »
Ok. Thats kind of what I thought. I'll go up to a .032 jet size and recheck.
There is on thing that I would like to redo on the full throttle switch, is to have it activate sooner in the throw of the throttle and have it contiunue all the way to full throttle limiter.
'87 Syncro Transporter Single Cab "Now TDI"
'78 Rabbit..Gas Weekend Racer
'81 Caddy..Diesel 1.6/1.9 TD hybrid 275HP 349TQ "Retired"
'90 MultiVan, 2.5 Suby Swap, Porsche Brakes
'76 Scirocco TD dragster project
'13 Golf R:. Tuned
'98 Puch G320