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Reply #15January 08, 2010, 02:28:55 am

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Re: Anyone tried AAZ pistons in a Franken engine? (1.6TD with AAZ head)
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2010, 02:28:55 am »
We have 10degF/-12degC today, so the Franken combo wouldn't exactly be ideal to say the least :P

Itīs been -32C for few days, even stock TDI wont start :(
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Reply #16January 08, 2010, 06:16:27 am

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Re: Anyone tried AAZ pistons in a Franken engine? (1.6TD with AAZ head)
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2010, 06:16:27 am »
my car started no problem in -40*C. Mind you I have a block heater an oil pan heater and a battery blanket.  :P
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Reply #17January 08, 2010, 09:22:09 pm

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Re: Anyone tried AAZ pistons in a Franken engine? (1.6TD with AAZ head)
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2010, 09:22:09 pm »
what is your setup though?  is it the frankenmotor?  and since when did we start calling it that, not too sure I would want something called that sitting in my engine bay :o JK  I plan on running a special oil heater in my reservoir, and dual batteries mounted in the trunk for double the current output, as well as the special 600w or better block heater. 8)
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Reply #18January 09, 2010, 08:38:21 am

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Re: Anyone tried AAZ pistons in a Franken engine? (1.6TD with AAZ head)
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2010, 08:38:21 am »
what is your setup though?  is it the frankenmotor?  and since when did we start calling it that, not too sure I would want something called that sitting in my engine bay :o JK  I plan on running a special oil heater in my reservoir, and dual batteries mounted in the trunk for double the current output, as well as the special 600w or better block heater. 8)


this forum has been calling them franken engines since before you were around here...

Reply #19January 09, 2010, 11:30:51 pm

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Re: Anyone tried AAZ pistons in a Franken engine? (1.6TD with AAZ head)
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2010, 11:30:51 pm »
just for reference, JK means: "joke"  no intention of offending anyone or thread jacking.

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Reply #20January 10, 2010, 10:57:24 am

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Re: Anyone tried AAZ pistons in a Franken engine? (1.6TD with AAZ head)
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2010, 10:57:24 am »
means just kidding
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Reply #21December 23, 2010, 06:21:32 am

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Re: Anyone tried AAZ pistons in a Franken engine? (1.6TD with AAZ head)
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2010, 06:21:32 am »
Bringing an old thread to life just to add to it that there is OEM pistons that will give the 1.6TD the 1.7litre displacement :)

Pistons are from the 1.7D KY engine with the same deck height and wrist pin size as the 1.6TD
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Reply #22December 23, 2010, 10:05:51 am

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Re: Anyone tried AAZ pistons in a Franken engine? (1.6TD with AAZ head)
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2010, 10:05:51 am »
yea, but are they even available in the USA?

i thought people were just using 1mm o/s pistons to get a 1.7D?
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Reply #23December 23, 2010, 10:23:02 am

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Re: Anyone tried AAZ pistons in a Franken engine? (1.6TD with AAZ head)
« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2010, 10:23:02 am »
KY is pretty rare everywhere. You need 3mm oversize to get 1,7.
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Reply #24December 23, 2010, 10:24:44 am

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Re: Anyone tried AAZ pistons in a Franken engine? (1.6TD with AAZ head)
« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2010, 10:24:44 am »
so that pretty much throws that possibility out the window..

maybe someone could try sourcing the correct size pistons thru prothe? i know he gets his pistons thru some sort of oem supplier for isuzu..
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Reply #25December 23, 2010, 11:14:21 am

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Re: Anyone tried AAZ pistons in a Franken engine? (1.6TD with AAZ head)
« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2010, 11:14:21 am »
i thought the 1.6 gets too thin of cylinder walls for this
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Reply #26December 23, 2010, 11:22:07 am

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Re: Anyone tried AAZ pistons in a Franken engine? (1.6TD with AAZ head)
« Reply #26 on: December 23, 2010, 11:22:07 am »
i know i wouldnt bore 3mms out of my cyls..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #27December 23, 2010, 11:50:38 am

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Re: Anyone tried AAZ pistons in a Franken engine? (1.6TD with AAZ head)
« Reply #27 on: December 23, 2010, 11:50:38 am »
Correct size for what? 1mm oversize? What brand pistons prothe sells?
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Reply #28December 23, 2010, 08:13:37 pm

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Re: Anyone tried AAZ pistons in a Franken engine? (1.6TD with AAZ head)
« Reply #28 on: December 23, 2010, 08:13:37 pm »
I had a block that was bored to it's last and was too worn,..
 so I bought 1.7 TD pistons from a guy on here.
 Half money up front and half when they arrived from europe. It was cheaper than buying pistons and finding another block.
 It's taken me years to bring this project to completion,.. and it will take another one before it's a daily driver. Kind of a side project.
 but I did hear it run last week. Cold as hell but it started right up and revved before i quickly shut it off. Winter might be a good/fun time to break it in.
 Bored out to 79.98mm, it just clears the AZZ gasket.

 I didn't know I was getting first oversize, would have rather left that extra .5mm on the walls and got standard pistons.

 The pistons hit the edge of the oil squirter bases it was so wide.

 Got almost all of the wiring and stuff done that will allow me to start it from the driver's seat.
 Waiting for a waterpump pully and battery.
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MK4s: 2000 TDI jetta, 2003 TDI wagon, 2000 golf 2.0 gasser.
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Reply #29December 24, 2010, 08:36:38 am

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Re: Anyone tried AAZ pistons in a Franken engine? (1.6TD with AAZ head)
« Reply #29 on: December 24, 2010, 08:36:38 am »
I had a block that was bored to it's last and was too worn,..
 so I bought 1.7 TD pistons from a guy on here.
 Half money up front and half when they arrived from europe. It was cheaper than buying pistons and finding another block.
 It's taken me years to bring this project to completion,.. and it will take another one before it's a daily driver. Kind of a side project.
 but I did hear it run last week. Cold as hell but it started right up and revved before i quickly shut it off. Winter might be a good/fun time to break it in.
 Bored out to 79.98mm, it just clears the AZZ gasket.

 I didn't know I was getting first oversize, would have rather left that extra .5mm on the walls and got standard pistons.

 The pistons hit the edge of the oil squirter bases it was so wide.

 Got almost all of the wiring and stuff done that will allow me to start it from the driver's seat.
 Waiting for a waterpump pully and battery.

you can bore the cylinders 3mm?!?! how thin does that leave the cyl walls? about as thick as some tough paper?
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.