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February 27, 2009, 07:53:48 am

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will a 1Y head fit an ABL block?
« on: February 27, 2009, 07:53:48 am »
will the head from a n/a 1.9d caddy (1Y) fit and run ok on my ABL 1.9 td engine? I was under the understanding that all 1.9diesel heads are the same? just the gaskets that differ? Is this correct??
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Reply #1February 27, 2009, 11:13:07 am

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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2009, 11:13:07 am »
Why is that?  The 1Y engine is IDI too.
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Reply #2February 27, 2009, 02:01:21 pm

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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2009, 02:01:21 pm »
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Reply #3February 27, 2009, 02:03:39 pm

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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2009, 02:03:39 pm »
1y has a really nice inlet and exhaust manifold!
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Reply #4February 27, 2009, 03:25:20 pm

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Quote from: "ryanp"
1y has a really nice inlet and exhaust manifold!


Guess who's using both of them on his Jetta project...  :twisted:
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Reply #5February 27, 2009, 06:16:53 pm

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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2009, 06:16:53 pm »
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Reply #6February 28, 2009, 02:14:08 am

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Reply #7February 28, 2009, 04:18:11 am

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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2009, 04:18:11 am »
would this give any performance gain?? would it not fowl the turbo?
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Reply #8February 28, 2009, 06:49:09 am

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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2009, 06:49:09 am »
That's what i now have in my transporter. Actually was an ADG industrial, but just got a bigger pump built up , modified  a cx intake and voila.
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Reply #9March 01, 2009, 08:11:18 am

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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2009, 08:11:18 am »
i got my new head today (from my mate, off a 1y engine) and all looks to be the same. Also, the head looks brand new casting, and its not a VW part. So im guessing its a new remanufactured one from vw engineering or similar, can anybody confirm??

Also, what does the little extra pipe coming out of the side of the head do (by the water flange) as my ABL head has one, and my 1y doesnt?? other than that,thats the only difference that i can see??

so should be ok, as long as i dont need that pipe??

here are some pics?







and here's a pic of my old head, with pipe, and new one without??


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Reply #10March 01, 2009, 08:25:57 am

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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2009, 08:25:57 am »
I have never seen a diesel head with one of those outlets. Only on 1.8 and 2.0 gasser heads. And not a VW casting. Someone else will have to attest to the quality of it.
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Reply #11March 01, 2009, 08:34:10 am

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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2009, 08:34:10 am »
i had an amc head on my old 1.6 it was never a problem for me, i've read stuff on here tho about them being cheap.
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Reply #12March 01, 2009, 08:59:17 am

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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2009, 08:59:17 am »
Quote from: "the caveman"
I have never seen a diesel head with one of those outlets. Only on 1.8 and 2.0 gasser heads. And not a VW casting. Someone else will have to attest to the quality of it.


thats what i thought?? i cant even find anythin in the engine bay that it would connect to either?? weird??
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Reply #13March 01, 2009, 09:08:17 am

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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2009, 09:08:17 am »
Yeah aftermarket head. Had one on my car seemed ok. I think having a OE german head just makes people feel better.
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Reply #14March 01, 2009, 09:13:54 am

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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2009, 09:13:54 am »
Quote from: "rixy"
Quote from: "the caveman"
I have never seen a diesel head with one of those outlets. Only on 1.8 and 2.0 gasser heads. And not a VW casting. Someone else will have to attest to the quality of it.


thats what i thought?? i cant even find anythin in the engine bay that it would connect to either?? weird??


almost looks like it is for the EGR cooler... could be wrong though.

Quote from: "foxracer1"
Yeah aftermarket head. Had one on my car seemed ok. I think having a OE german head just makes people feel better.


yeah as long as good coolant is used there really shouldn't be any problems... unless there were casting defects.  i'm sure that these manufacturers must adhere to some type of quality inspections... i hope  :lol:

that being said, a coolant additive might be a good idea if you decide to go with a cheaper non OEM head.  jimfoo seems to have had great success using evans coolant in his head/motor.  the coolant runs with zero pressure, so is much safer, and would probably save a lot of heater cores out there  :wink:  too bad its so damn expensive though!!!  :x  :lol:

part of the problem is also their ordering site... how the heck is anyone going to know exactly what they need??? they should sell kits!


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