questions for "Turbinepowered"

[Dirtrag2]

Hey there!  I noticed in a post that you fit a diesel in a Fox Wagon.  Having previously owned a wagon myself, I would like to know what was involved in the transplant.

- What engine did you use 1.6 or 1.9

- did you keep stock engine configuration ( longitude mount, like a rear wheel drive car )

- did you use the Fox tranny or an Audi tranny?

- Cable or Hydraulic clutch

the rest should be fairly straight forward right? the usual removal of everything gas and transfer everything diesel.  For this project I will salvage every possible part off my mk3 jetta so I don't think this will be too expensive.

if anyone else has done this feel free to share your knowledge  :wink:  

thanks

[Turbinepowered]

Why yes, I have put a diesel in my '89 wagon.

The engine was scrounged from a '79 diesel Rabbit, so it was a 1.5 diesel.

It's still mounted in the stock orientation, using the stock clutch and transmission.

I stripped the engine block of all it's mounting brackets, water pump, flywheel. I had to use the IP bracket from a Dasher, which is also longitudinal, as the Rabbit bracket had the integral front engine mount on the IP bracket.

The Fox clutch is cable driven, I used the flywheel, pressure plate and clutch disc from a Quantum so I could get the right timing marks on a longitudinal diesel.

The water pump, water hose outlets, oil filter mount, and engine mounting brackets are all transfers from the Fox engine, allowing me to use the stock Fox cooling setup and pipes.

I don't believe transverse starters and longitudinal starters are interchangeable; in any case, I didn't have the stock Rabbit starter, so I scrounged up a Quantum turbodiesel starter in its place. The stock Fox motor mount needed a light grind to be able to clearance the starter's motor. Later, when the engine becomes turbocharged, I'll be replacing the Fox mount with the Quantum TD mount, which has the integral turbo support mount cast into it.

[Dirtrag2]

1-Why yes, I have put a diesel in my '89 wagon.
It's still mounted in the stock orientation, using the stock clutch and transmission.


2-I used the flywheel, pressure plate and clutch disc from a Quantum so I could get the right timing marks on a longitudinal diesel.

1- '89 Fox is 4 speed right? ( my 88 was ) how does it pull? ok at hwy speeds? what RPM at 60MPH

2- if i've done my homework, Dasher and Quantum = Pasat in Canada

Thanks

[jackbombay]

2- if i've done my homework, Dasher and Quantum = Pasat in Canada

  Dasher is way smaller than a Quantum, but the quantum and the passat are quite close/the same.

[Turbinepowered]

Dasher = B1 Passat

Quantum = B2 Passat

Fox = BX platform (Not a Passat! )

B3+ Passats = Passats

Yeah, the '89 was a 4-speed.

Not sure how it pulls; I changed my mind on my injectors, and lo and behold my tester decides it doesn't want to build pressure, so I'm rebuilding it. It should pull fairly well, might even do better than the stock gas with the wide gear spacing. 4th is fairly tall, too, so it should cruise alright.

[Dirtrag2]

take a look here http://www.lunaticfringe.org/vwfox/mod/transmission-swap-specs.html for fox transmission ratios.

and then use the calculator here http://www.scirocco.org/gears/ to figure RPM and road speed.

nice to know it all bolts up, kinda.

[Turbinepowered]

Hmmm, looks like with the Stock Fox transmission, holding 75 will be ~3400RPM.


That's about where my '04 Lancer holds 75.  :shock:

Who knew!









... Okay, evil thought. 1.6TD bolted into my Lancer.




Evil moment has passed! That car's too pig heavy for the TD, but if the engine ever takes a nosedive she's getting a TDI.



Why does 3400 seem like such a high number to hold a 1.5D at for long periods of time? That's actually lower than the RPM for a stock Dasher with the 4-speed, which was 4035 with stock (175/70R13) tires.