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Reply #135February 03, 2008, 06:11:48 pm

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« Reply #135 on: February 03, 2008, 06:11:48 pm »
post dyno plot with visible rpms. Looks like this .64 exhaust A/R doesn't lag badly  8)  8)  8)
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Reply #136February 03, 2008, 06:44:26 pm

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« Reply #136 on: February 03, 2008, 06:44:26 pm »
I will on monday when I am back at the shop. The run starts at 3000rpm though, peak torque is around 4900, dyno plot ends at 6k rpm.

Reply #137February 04, 2008, 12:52:19 pm

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« Reply #137 on: February 04, 2008, 12:52:19 pm »
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Reply #138February 04, 2008, 02:32:06 pm

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« Reply #138 on: February 04, 2008, 02:32:06 pm »
What size of ARP head Studs did you use? Stock?
Sorry if it was mentioned but jut read through and don't remember reading it...

This makes me really consider my Franken motor build, vs a TDI... seeming it has to be a DD...
Man, tough choice... :(
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Reply #139February 04, 2008, 02:47:15 pm

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« Reply #139 on: February 04, 2008, 02:47:15 pm »
Stock sized ARP main studs.

I like IDI's and TDI's, I really just want to triple stock 1.6td power figures, 68 stock, 204+ my way :P

Next step is tripling an alh tdi, 90 to 270 anyone?  :twisted:

Reply #140February 04, 2008, 03:15:16 pm

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« Reply #140 on: February 04, 2008, 03:15:16 pm »
Quote from: "935racer"
Stock sized ARP main studs.

I like IDI's and TDI's, I really just want to triple stock 1.6td power figures, 68 stock, 204+ my way :P

Next step is tripling an alh tdi, 90 to 270 anyone?  :twisted:


what about a 1Z TDI?  :)


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Reply #141February 04, 2008, 03:22:31 pm

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« Reply #141 on: February 04, 2008, 03:22:31 pm »
Still getting a 14mm pump? Do you think a 14mm might be overkill compared to a 12mm?

AFAIK there is only one 1.9L TDI in NA that dynoed at least 200whp (although that setup is only safe for 180-190whp without overboosting) so this is a nice feat with a TD.. 1.6L even :)
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Reply #142February 04, 2008, 03:23:59 pm

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« Reply #142 on: February 04, 2008, 03:23:59 pm »
Hey, tell us about the new shop.  Just a new view, or bigger and better?
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Reply #143February 04, 2008, 03:45:15 pm

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« Reply #143 on: February 04, 2008, 03:45:15 pm »
I'd be interested to see if jimfoo can reach some nice hp/tq if his AAZ/1Z hybrid works out. A 1.9 m-TDI in a Mk2 would be my dream car.
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Reply #144February 04, 2008, 04:24:07 pm

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« Reply #144 on: February 04, 2008, 04:24:07 pm »
Here is the dyno with rpms, did some smoothing as well, the thick area at the end is because I chopped the pedal before ending the run on the computer.



This does lead me to believe a 14mm pump is over kill for the lower end of 200whp. A 12mm would suit my goals just fine, heck with some different injectors this 9mm is likely good enough. I am not completely decided on my pump situation yet, I want to build an new intake manifold and a new exhaust manifold and add a camshaft first, see where I am at, and go from there.


New shop is bigger and better, 6500 sq/ft, really nice race shop, we'll have a nice customer lounge area with a big plasma tv and surround for people waiting for dyno slips and such. This new shop will house my business and my friends business building custom turbo bimmers. With a dyno, ecu tuning capabilities, machining equipment, fabrication equipment an a paint shop we'll be able to tackle virtually any project.

I'll get some pics of the new shop when we are both a little more moved in.

Reply #145February 04, 2008, 04:37:37 pm

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« Reply #145 on: February 04, 2008, 04:37:37 pm »
Oh yeah also widened the graph a bit as well.

Reply #146February 04, 2008, 04:47:52 pm

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« Reply #146 on: February 04, 2008, 04:47:52 pm »
i think if people on vortex saw this they'd *** bricks.  how necessary do you think the 1.9 head is to make this kind of power, seems like the stock intake and smaller turbo is the weak link in the chain on these.  how much was the head ported?
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Reply #147February 04, 2008, 04:53:38 pm

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« Reply #147 on: February 04, 2008, 04:53:38 pm »
The head was very ported, probably the most time I've spent on a single vw diesel head yet. I think the head is a big part of making this kind of power, the lower compression allows you run the higher boost, as well as more timing, the intake ports are a pretty decent improvement and the intake valves are 1mm larger.

But yes stock manifolds and turbo are certainly a restriction.

Reply #148February 04, 2008, 08:33:15 pm

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« Reply #148 on: February 04, 2008, 08:33:15 pm »
Congrats on the #'s :D , you've certainly made your mark in the IDI scene.
You put down any acceleration times yet ???

Reply #149February 04, 2008, 09:04:40 pm

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« Reply #149 on: February 04, 2008, 09:04:40 pm »
So Dave with this new shop expect to see me sometime this summer wanting a dyno run  :D
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