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Source of windsheild gasket?
by
srgtlord
on 16 Jun, 2012 05:58
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Due to the lack of vw mk 2's anywhere in the area I think Im just going to keep my 87 golf and finally do the rust work that it needs with my newly aquired graduation money. It seems all of these cars eventually have the same exact rust issues, and finding one without any usually costs upwards of $3000. Due to the necessity of the vehicle at the moment I will repair one problem area at a time. It will be like making car payments except I own the car and not the bank
Anyway back to the original question . Where can I find a new glue-in windshield gasket?
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#1
by
theman53
on 16 Jun, 2012 06:09
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Glass Dr.
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#2
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 16 Jun, 2012 07:55
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the windshields glue into the car. there is no gasket. just a trim piece..
even late mk1 cars (84) had glue-in windshields..
so, there is no such thing as a windshield gasket for a mk2.
just butyl rubber holding the window in.. all of my mk2s are that way atleast.
ive got a 92 german car, a 92 mesican car, and 85/86 cars.. as well as an 84 rabbit. all of those cars have the windshield glued directly to the windshield frame..
no gasket in a mk2 to mess with.. so quit looking.
or were you talking about the trim piece this whole time?
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#3
by
ORCoaster
on 16 Jun, 2012 08:52
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#4
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 16 Jun, 2012 13:40
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yup, only the mk1 got the actual removable/reusable gasket. mk2/later is glue in/no gasket, just a trim piece.
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#5
by
theman53
on 16 Jun, 2012 14:07
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My friend uses cabrio windshilelds in his MK1 s as they are all glue in. The Glass DR will glue the normal MK1 in, but it only has 1/4" to work with, the cabrio is a ton better.
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#6
by
pointynoggin
on 16 Jun, 2012 22:00
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i think the rust you are talking about in in the center on the lower windshield seal? I got the the same problem.
I just got the windshield replaced and the top corners of the seal have a gap, are not in contact with the car. Is this a problem?
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#7
by
CRSMP5
on 16 Jun, 2012 22:58
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sadly unless you paint the glue in area when you change it.. they will all rust.. paint gets scratched when ungluing it.. why i go stock glass in my b3 wagon.. id rather have cracks then rot..
only 83/84 bunny and late 88-90ish cabby had glue in glass.. rest were rope in seales.. on a mk1 chassis... mk2+ all glue in..
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#8
by
theman53
on 17 Jun, 2012 09:29
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The newer glue the Glass Dr. uses has a primer that will stop rust. My brother in law is a Glass Technician or something like that...they sent him to school to change glass...He has told me that if the person doing the glass is certified a "blah-blah" whatever they are, they should never touch the paint with the knife enough to take it off. He showed me on my Jetta and there is supposed to be a little polyurathane glue left on for them to glue to. He says that is why his company he works for charges more...I say it makes them feel better when they go to sleep at night.
I didn't know what cabrio had the glue in but I knew there was some. Same guy told me they use glue in a lot in newer convertables for added structure strength.
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#9
by
srgtlord
on 17 Jun, 2012 11:16
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If its just glued in then where can i find the plastic trim peices? The bentley says to replace these peices when the windsheild is removed. I located a source for a mk2 non glue in windshield seal just in case I cannot locate the trim pieces. Apparently across the pond they had these gaskets.
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#10
by
CRSMP5
on 17 Jun, 2012 12:00
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the glass like a mk1 would be different size if thats true..
when older glass shops use the cheese slicer wire contraption to unglue the windsheild... how does it not touch the paint at some point? thats how the nick the paint.. yea ive seen newer appliance cutter thinggies used too.. but they tend to also touch the edge of the opening too... all it takes is a nick in the paint to primer.. primer asorbs moisture..
realism is.. if you want new glass, plan to have it installed at body shop.. get glass removed.. a simple hit it around the opening where the "trim" will cover it and you can live knowing you did all you could to help prevent rust..
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#11
by
ToddA1
on 17 Jun, 2012 21:42
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The paint will always get nicked when cutting out a glue in windshield. I've seen the cable style, the modified sawzall, and the hooked knife with pull handle. I'd like to see any of those 3 tools used with no paint damage in the windshield channel.
After removing the windshield and all the excess urethane, a primer should be applied. It cleans the surface and seals any scratches to bare metal. Whatever solvent is in that stuff flashes off quickly, then the urethane is applied.
-Todd
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#12
by
srgtlord
on 18 Jun, 2012 05:40
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#13
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 18 Jun, 2012 11:05
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The newer glue the Glass Dr. uses has a primer that will stop rust. My brother in law is a Glass Technician or something like that...they sent him to school to change glass...He has told me that if the person doing the glass is certified a "blah-blah" whatever they are, they should never touch the paint with the knife enough to take it off. He showed me on my Jetta and there is supposed to be a little polyurathane glue left on for them to glue to. He says that is why his company he works for charges more...I say it makes them feel better when they go to sleep at night.
I didn't know what cabrio had the glue in but I knew there was some. Same guy told me they use glue in a lot in newer convertables for added structure strength.
in 84, EVERY mk1 got glue in windshields.. even the cabrios until 93. 83 and older cabrios had gasket windshields still.. I THINK..
yea, they do, i just called my buddy, he has had a few. the pre-84 cars had gaskets just like regular rabbits.
so, you can use an 84 rabbit/jetta windshield, or a 84-93 cabby windshield..
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#14
by
srgtlord
on 18 Jun, 2012 13:49
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For the record the 1992 cabriolet I have has a rubber gasket and no trim piece.