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June 04, 2007, 05:32:37 pm

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Can you add an aneroid to a normal 1.6 pump?
« on: June 04, 2007, 05:32:37 pm »
Just like the title states.  I am having problems finding a pump for my 1.6TD.  The pump on it is a regular one (w/o aneroid), and I would like to get one.  I already have a post in the classifieds that I am looking for a pump, but if anyone has a good source, or any info regarding converting the one I have, let me know.

I might even get both, just so I can screw around with one.

Thanks in advance.
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Reply #1June 04, 2007, 07:11:56 pm

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Can you add an aneroid to a normal 1.6 pump?
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2007, 07:11:56 pm »
I don't know if I posted in your ad or just thought about it, I'll have a pump within the next month
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Reply #2June 05, 2007, 05:14:56 am

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Can you add an aneroid to a normal 1.6 pump?
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2007, 05:14:56 am »
Quote from: burn_your_money
I don't know if I posted in your ad or just thought about it, I'll have a pump within the next month


I don't think you posted anything, but how much would you want?  Its going to be shipped to the States (zip code 02816).  I am hoping to get one before a month, but let me know anyway, if I don't find one by then, I'll really need it by a month from now.
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Reply #3June 05, 2007, 02:59:05 pm

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Can you add an aneroid to a normal 1.6 pump?
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2007, 02:59:05 pm »
Hi red64chevelle,


yes it can be done, you just need the complete lid off a Td pump, i did wonder myself, i managed to find an ebay diesel shop, they were shutting up shop and i managed to get a Td pump lid complete with aneroid pin and converted my n/a pump to Td.

if you trawl my pictures on my site i posted them here as im sure others had wondered if was possible too :wink:

good luck in your search tho!

hillshy
Hillshy T25 caravelle "Hilli" currently thrashing 1.6 td GTD engine
NOT SO FRIGGEN HILLSHY ANYMORE!
15psi of BOOST set my c'velle free

Reply #4June 05, 2007, 05:55:07 pm

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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2007, 05:55:07 pm »
Thanks for the info. :D
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Reply #5July 05, 2007, 04:12:54 am

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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2007, 04:12:54 am »
Hillshy, did you have to recalibrate the pump in any way when you added the aneroid?

I can get a TD pump core no problem, but did you have to do anything else to the pump to it, besides installing it on the pump body?
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Reply #6July 05, 2007, 09:40:23 am

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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2007, 09:40:23 am »
This is really interesting! Seems like you (hillshy) didn't even pull the IP from the car?
I have a -92 AAZ eco, would the aneroid from an older 1.6 fit?
Is there any nasty surprises when you take the lid off, like springs that shoots out or alike?
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Reply #7July 05, 2007, 07:12:52 pm

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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2007, 07:12:52 pm »
no springs that shoot out per se, but one is connected to the lid on the N/a one.

Still, I think one would have to connect the lever from the aneroid and wouldn't it need to be recalibrated in some way?

Some one here may know..
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Reply #8July 07, 2007, 02:50:03 am

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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2007, 02:50:03 am »
Hey Bevboyy,

sorry man just noticed your questions.

The pump in question was a Td pump to begin with but it was an eco pump, so exactly the same pump as an N/A. The way the eco boosts is by running more air so they run lean. but once i removed the pump lid they are the same inside(well as far as i could see) the engine was removed from the car already,but i was able to run the engine on the ground as I made a temp test bed, it would reqiure some fine tuning but i can't see reason why swapping over lids would cause an issue. so go for it! you can always revert back if you are not happy with the results.


whilst I was doing the swap over, i have a true GTD pump with the lid removed and constantly crossed ref'd/checked/compared things between the two, doing this also made the GOV mod make more sense. my next job!


http://www.hillshy.co.uk/images/DSC00683.JPG
http://www.hillshy.co.uk/images/DSC00684.JPG
http://www.hillshy.co.uk/images/DSC00695.JPG org eco td pump (looks like n/a)

http://www.hillshy.co.uk/images/DSC00696.JPG
http://www.hillshy.co.uk/images/DSC00697.JPG
http://www.hillshy.co.uk/images/DSC00699.JPG

hope this helps in any way!

regards
Stuart(hillshy)
Hillshy T25 caravelle "Hilli" currently thrashing 1.6 td GTD engine
NOT SO FRIGGEN HILLSHY ANYMORE!
15psi of BOOST set my c'velle free