feeler; thoughts on a G60 supercharger on TD engine ?

[blkboostedtruck]

well i originally posted for use on a 1.6 TD where there is nearly no combustion area ,paper thin,flat top pistons! everyone has been giving #'s for gas motor where there is a larg combustion chamber. how much air can be pushed into the TD chamber? it don't need much in this application ! just like the turbo has a waste gate and the engine don't use all the air anyways! the idea for this is putting air and fuel right in at the start! hopping for better responce at low end instead of waiting for the turbo to spool up!i think you would not need to port for a 1.6 but for a 1.9 isn't there a champer in the top of the pistons ? if so then i think the porting on the G60 would be great to fill the chamber in the combustion area on the 1.9TDI  can you post a pic. of that M62 in your shed MIKKIJAYNE i would like to see what one looks like?
and what did a K26 turbo come off of? i found 5 of them in my basement and i don't remember where they came from? thanks Duane

[MontanaGTD]

Where to get one on this side of that Atlantic though?

If you ask then i'll sort one out and send one over! they arent hard to find!

[Northern RD]

Where to get one on this side of that Atlantic though?

If you ask then i'll sort one out and send one over! they arent hard to find!

Really? More details please! :twisted:

[MikkiJayne]

The Eaton M62:



The clutch & pulley is removed here but its about 85mm dia. The outlet is on top, and inlet on the end opposite the pulley. Its about 23cm long, 18 wide, and 14 high. I'm pretty sure it would mount up using the aircon bracket, but I haven't mocked anything up yet.

Its less than half the size of the G60 and doesn't need an oil feed. It is considerably less efficient than a G60 though, and needs a water-air cooler at high boost levels (>1 bar). I don't think it would be very good as a straight turbo replacement, but it would work very well in conjunction with a big laggy turbo to fill in the bottom end.

Mikki x

[MontanaGTD]

Where to get one on this side of that Atlantic though?

If you ask then i'll sort one out and send one over! they arent hard to find!

Really? More details please! :twisted:

I've got 2 spare ones in pieces - 1 spare good one and 1 on the car. plus i pick them up off german ebay for about £100 or so when they come up as people are forever blowing them up!

[zukgod1]

and what did a K26 turbo come off of? i found 5 of them in my basement and i don't remember where they came from? thanks Duane

Those things are junk, better send them to me to dispose of for ya at least one anyway..



dan

[blkboostedtruck]

The Eaton M62:



The clutch & pulley is removed here but its about 85mm dia. The outlet is on top, and inlet on the end opposite the pulley. Its about 23cm long, 18 wide, and 14 high. I'm pretty sure it would mount up using the aircon bracket, but I haven't mocked anything up yet.

Its less than half the size of the G60 and doesn't need an oil feed. It is considerably less efficient than a G60 though, and needs a water-air cooler at high boost levels (>1 bar). I don't think it would be very good as a straight turbo replacement, but it would work very well in conjunction with a big laggy turbo to fill in the bottom end.

Mikki x

hey thanks for the picture ! thats a really nice unit you have there!now the
next picture i'd like to see it on something!  :lol:  That reminds me of a autotech magnacharger . i'm not sure if any of those made it to europe? the original guy that designed them for the VW rabbits / golf's sold the patent to someone that now  i guess makes them for harley davidsons motorcycles now ! and that supercharger did not need a oil line and the g-ladders were teflon coated the only downfall with the autotech supercharger there was no intercooler but it did work very well! well keep me posted when you get that on a project in the future thanks Duane


    Hey MontanaGTD Iv'e never seen a G40 supercharger ! do they look like G60's just smaller? do ya have a pic. of one for me to see? I wonder why the G40 never made it west to the USA? does anyone know the answer to this? thanks Duane

[blkboostedtruck]

and what did a K26 turbo come off of? i found 5 of them in my basement and i don't remember where they came from? thanks Duane

Those things are junk, better send them to me to dispose of for ya at least one anyway..



dan

 how did you know they were all junk? well 3 have shaft play with no housing
or trim damage that i can see! one with bent shaft.looks like new! and the other the shaft turns stiff! are the K26 from a audi 5000? i can dispose of them here for 45 bucks a piece. they are good enough shape to be rebuilt I guess i can dispose of them anywhere that recycles well let me know thanks Duane

[blkboostedtruck]

I ran across an engine at work that has a supercharger and a turbo configuration i'm gonna snap a pic. of it tomorrow and post it ! the motor is a detroit diesel cable tugger thats on a barge i'm working on. so look for the pic. tomorrow nite thanks Duane

[Doug]

Are you sure that is not a two cycle marine diesel? In which case the supercharger is needed for crankcase scavenging. It is a whole different set up.

[Northern RD]

The Eaton M62:



The clutch & pulley is removed here but its about 85mm dia. The outlet is on top, and inlet on the end opposite the pulley. Its about 23cm long, 18 wide, and 14 high. I'm pretty sure it would mount up using the aircon bracket, but I haven't mocked anything up yet.

Its less than half the size of the G60 and doesn't need an oil feed. It is considerably less efficient than a G60 though, and needs a water-air cooler at high boost levels (>1 bar). I don't think it would be very good as a straight turbo replacement, but it would work very well in conjunction with a big laggy turbo to fill in the bottom end.


How much$$$$??
N.
Mikki x

[MikkiJayne]

I ran across an engine at work that has a supercharger and a turbo configuration i'm gonna snap a pic. of it tomorrow and post it ! the motor is a detroit diesel cable tugger thats on a barge i'm working on. so look for the pic. tomorrow nite thanks Duane

Volvo do this with their marine diesels too:



Volvo Penta KAMD300 marine engine. 24 valve straight 6, making 285bhp @ 3800 rpm from 3.8l

The Oguro supercharger is at the top right, turbo top left.

Northern RD - the M62 usually sells on ebay UK for £200 ish - $400?

[Northern RD]

I ran across an engine at work that has a supercharger and a turbo configuration i'm gonna snap a pic. of it tomorrow and post it ! the motor is a detroit diesel cable tugger thats on a barge i'm working on. so look for the pic. tomorrow nite thanks Duane

Volvo do this with their marine diesels too:



Volvo Penta KAMD300 marine engine. 24 valve straight 6, making 285bhp @ 3800 rpm from 3.8l

The Oguro supercharger is at the top right, turbo top left.

Northern RD - the M62 usually sells on ebay UK for £200 ish - $400?

Nutz, I`ll have to sell the dag AND the GF to afford one,....    

[Mk2Fanatic]

Any ideas on how to get clearance for the pump to fit with the G60 mounted on it's original bracket.  Looks like the alternator is in the way...

[blkboostedtruck]

well for me this project is all talk no action so far! I've only been collecting for this project only for a year now ! I have a 1.6 TD long block and injection pump,I have a G60 but it's still sitting in a complete corrado! so i have not tried any of the physical mock up yet! i've gotten alot ideas from this board and i don't think this project will be as hard as it sounds! also i'm still looking for a sutable Mk1 pickup to do all of this too! I really want a 80 or an 83 those are the only 2 years i don't have in my collection! so if i find one of them in the near future that will speed up the project also!well as of now i can't answer if the supercharger will clear or even bolt up next to thr I.P. unless someone else has one to try with to see if it does?I'm still working on getting the pics. i took of blower and turbo diesel motor at work but i will have them posted soon!! thanks Duane