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• 89 jetta diesel NO START!!!!! by richclan on 04 Mar, 2007 11:09
• Ok here is the rundown
  2 months ago it drove great, and started w/warm, PO said was hard to start, price was right so bought it. sat for 2 months and now i'm tryin to get it on the road. its still cold out temps in the 30's
  replaced 2 glow plugs
  removed ip lines to get them in
  used mity vac to get air out from ip return line (hope i got the right line)
  also cracked line open and cranked till fuel came out.
  glow amperage is 35-40 amps now
  starter cranking speed is very fast / battery is good
  pulled out high idle lever
  lots of black smoke from tail pipe so i sure there is fuel
  but no start
  
  NEED SOME IDEAS?
  thanks in advance
• #1 by SMOKEYDUB on 04 Mar, 2007 11:49
• Injector pump timing. Also i would continue to try and bleed the pump.If nothing happens try a compression test
• #2 by richclan on 04 Mar, 2007 12:09
• so you think it could be air still in system.
  how do i go about bleeding the ip?
  thanks
• #3 by jtanguay on 04 Mar, 2007 17:33
• lots of black smoke is bad compression if the timing is right... either that or some really bad injectors...
• #4 by richclan on 04 Mar, 2007 20:53
• Quote from: jtanguay

  lots of black smoke is bad compression if the timing is right... either that or some really bad injectors...

  
  
  remember that when temps were in the 50's the car started, (keep in mind that 2 glow plugs were dead) and now because  poor comp.,  lower temps and all glow plugs work it wont start,? that doesnt add up to me. i hope your wrong.
  
  what is reasonable ccompression?
  
  can i overcome it with some starting aid that wont harm the engine?
• #5 by cyrus #1 on 04 Mar, 2007 21:17
• Quote from: "richclan"

  what is reasonable ccompression?

  
  
  The wear limit, according to the Bentley is 412 psi.  There should be no more than 73 psi difference between the cylinders.
• #6 by richclan on 23 Mar, 2007 11:49
• can anyone tell me the correct timing marks for this engine. ie crank, pump and cam marks.
  even when temps in the 60's it still wont start, just lots of black smoke from the tailpipe
  thanks
  
  also if the timing is off will this throw off the comp test readings?
• #7 by Vincent Waldon on 23 Mar, 2007 12:22
• Timing shouldn't throw off your compression test (unless the cam is really really out... and if it was that far out you've be hearing big banging noises as the valves hit the pistons).
  
  Timing on a diesel is more than just lining up some marks... the procedure uses a dial gauge threaded into the pump and a couple of tools to lock everything perfectly at TDC.
  
  Search here and at www.vwdieselparts.net and you'll find tons of info, step-by-steps, pictures, etc.
• #8 by Op-Ivy on 24 Mar, 2007 12:12
• Its http://www.vwdieselparts.com/ not .net
  
  
• #9 by Vincent Waldon on 24 Mar, 2007 14:18
• thanks... good catch.
  
  In fact.. here's an exact link to the timing instructions:
  
  http://www.vwdieselparts.com/injtim.htm