Hi, where I live theres several vans and cars running factory m-tdi setup, Ive stripped a few and the di camplate seems very similar to the vw, can I use the gov and principle levers from one of these pumps instead of modding my own? They seem to be pre modified although I havent made a gabarit to check the principle lever travel heres a pic of the governor levers. All the factory m-tdi governor levers I've seen dont seem to use an intermediate spring in the assembly?
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Quote from: dts67
vw m-tdis ? you got more info on this .
that governor lever on the left lookes like a transit di one
i have done my control lever in a difrant way , but serves the same movment to the control spool@snakemaster- No, not vws, so far rover 2.0d and transit I've stripped but seen others. The lever is from a rover but the transits looks the same.
@hey- I'm near sure it is, I'll check tomorrow. I'm trying to get a di camplate working in an idi engine (1.9 psa xud), I've read nearly all your 'english' posts and know roughly what to do, you mentioned setting the break point of the injectors to match the camplate, thats no problem but do I then need pre-injection and 2 spring injectors? I've had the car running with an afn di camplate in the pump but the principle lever travel is to short and the engine is LOUD with injectors @175 bar :lol:
I looked for all those pumps but I wasn't very lucky.
You can find Ford Transit injection pumps but they aren't cheap. They're used to replace the lucas EPIC pumps.
I don't know what cars the other pumps are from.
I think Austin-Rover.
If I'm not wrong somebody fit a pump from a car by that brand.It takes to add a spacer to fit on a VW engine.
Probably the pump was from a Maestro-Montego.
There are other Rover DI engines made later but pumps are L and not R, they are from Rover SDI.
I know that engines are by Perkins, I don't what are the differences.
Industrial engine by Perkins are called Prima, probably is the same engine of Maestro-Montego .
Perkins marine engine are sold by Volvo as Penta.
Does anybody know if there a suitable pump and its Bosch number?
Does anybody know the L pumps performance and setting?
Can it be a good idea to use one as a donor pump?
What parts are suitable both for a L and R pump?
I think the body isn't suitable because timing advance is on the opposite side.
Waht else? the camplate?
The rest is universal or not?
Thank you very much.
P.S. If you look for a Kia Carnival on U.K. ebay you must look for Kia Sedona.
That's why I never found one. Somewhere that car is called Sedona.
For those which have the possibility of it, there exists in Europe several pump ' ' specific DI' ' which is a direct swap, some witch the good alignment of pulley and rev over 4200rpm and this, in 10,11 and 12mm head plunger, ex: peugeot boxer 2.5TDI, fiat ducato 2.5 (some fiat use a TDI 1Z came plate with a 11mm head), Kia 2.9L DOHC, VW transporter 2.8 TDI, etc...... some of this pumps are not proper aligment pulley, there exist a different hub pulley for proper aligment, that can avoid machinage.
Mark Type Part number Applications Engine bosch VE 0460414029 VE R 228 Leyland Sherpa 200 46 kw Rover Maestro 2.0 D 46 kw Perkins Prima 65 Perkins Prima 65 bosch VE 0460414030 VE R 229 Rover M., Montego 2.0 TD 60 kw Perkins Prima 80 T bosch VE 0460414041 VE R 266 Perkins 500 37 kw 500 , 504 – 2 LR bosch VE 0460414053 VE R 290 Perkins PRIMA 4000 NA bosch VE 0460414092 VE R 275/2 Perkins Prima GR 500 29 kw Gemini TCI D.I. bosch VE 0460414093 VE R 462 Land Rover Defender 2.5TD 83 kw Perkins Prima 80 T |
i just wanted to add some pumps to the list of parts numbers worth searching for. most off them are euro cars though
0 460 424 138 vw LT 2.8 12mm
0 460 414 156 peugeot 2.5 tdi 11mm
0 460 424 164 Fiat Ducato 2.8 tdi 12mm
0 460 414 128 Fiat Ducato 2.5 tdi 11mm
0 460 414 193 Kia Carnival 2.9 tdi 11mm
0 460 414 191 Kia Carnival 2.9 tdi 11mm the one im curently using
0 460 414 099 Land Rover 300 tdi 11mm
0 460 414 098 Land Rover 200 tdi 11mm
0 460 414 054 Iveco Daily 2.5 DI 11mm
GL with the hunt
I looked through this FAQ and did not see a specific list of the custom bits necessary to use the Land Rover 300TDI injection pump on an AHU and an ALH. I figured I'd add that list.
AHU:
The snout hole in the pump mounting bracket needs to be enlarged for the larger snout of the LR pump.
Because the LR pump does not have slotted mounting holes, you need to make some accommodation for timing adjustment. My preference is to use the ALH sprocket and hub. If you use the ALH sprocket and hub then you either need to use slightly sprocket to hub bolts that are slightly shorter than the stock ALH bolts or trim the pump case slightly where the timing pin goes. If you use the stock ALH sprocket to hub bolts (which are single-use) without clearancing the pump case they will hit. Another option is to file the pump mounting holes so they are slots. If you make the pump mounting holes into slots, you can use the AHU sprocket.
The plate that catches the 4th pump mounting bolt by the injection lines needs to be changed. I've used the 1.6 plate which requires 2 additional holes to be drilled for mounting to the distributor head.
The LR delivery valves are longer. The two options are to either swap the delivery valves for short ones or bend the metal lines to fit the LR delivery valves. I've used TDI delivery valves and 1.6 delivery valves and either work fine and will fit the stock ALH injection lines. I have also bent the metal fuel lines and have not had any issues after thousands of miles of use. The downside to swapping valves is the fact that you need to source the valves and/or take them from a working pump destroying its value. The downside to bending the lines is that if you ever have to replace a line you will need to bend that one as well.
ALH:
The LR pump snout is the correct diameter to fit the ALH pump mounting bracket. The ALH pump mounting holes are threaded to accept the m8 bolts that fit through from the sprocket side. The LR holes are not threaded and are too large to tap to the m8 size. I tapped them to m10 and got the correct length m10 bolts which just barely fit through the bracket.
The other necessary changes are the same as written in the AHU section. The delivery valve length issue and the plate for the 4th pump mounting bolt need to be addressed.
i just wanted to add some pumps to the list of parts numbers worth searching for. most off them are euro cars though
0 460 424 138 vw LT 2.8 12mm
0 460 414 156 peugeot 2.5 tdi 11mm
0 460 424 164 Fiat Ducato 2.8 tdi 12mm
0 460 414 128 Fiat Ducato 2.5 tdi 11mm
0 460 414 193 Kia Carnival 2.9 tdi 11mm
0 460 414 191 Kia Carnival 2.9 tdi 11mm (the one im curently using)
0 460 414 099 Land Rover 300 tdi 11mm
0 460 414 098 Land Rover 200 tdi 11mm
0 460 414 054 Iveco Daily 2.5 DI 11mm
GL with the hunt
William Smith's at least come with the assurance that they came off of known running vehicles. These salvage yard pumps maybe just "rebuildable cores" if you're shipping from overseas