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September 17, 2006, 09:56:58 am

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hi guys
just wondered if anybody could throw some light on this for me, apart from my 3 caddys!! i have just dragged my old clipper cab out and have converted it from 1.6 petrol auto to 1.6 td 5 speed, now i know the cab is about 100kg heavyer than a normall hatch golf as all the extra strength underneath weighs a bit but the problem i,m having is when it had the standard petrol engine in it sat a normall ride height on standard springs now i have the td engine in it she,s sitting 2" lower on the front! i thought the diesel engine maybe heavyer but the 5 speed manual weighs lot less than the old auto i ripped out so i thought this would balance out..............WRONG!!!!!!!!!!

just wondered if anybody could shine some light on this.............................................. .................................................. .............................alex

Reply #1September 17, 2006, 10:19:03 am

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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2006, 10:19:03 am »
lower is better, i have no clue why, but for some reason the diesels are heavier, dunno why.
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Reply #2September 17, 2006, 10:25:12 am

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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2006, 10:25:12 am »
i agree but i live down a long bumpy lane with vast pot holes so need some ground clearence!!!!!!!!

Reply #3September 18, 2006, 04:07:22 am

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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2006, 04:07:22 am »
you'll need to buy some stiffer uprated springs, or suspension kit. or coilovers, then you can adjust the rideheight to suit, or if you want to get seriously trick maybe air ride? 8)

yeah the diesel engines do seem to be fairly hefty, I'm sure I read somewhere that the newer 1.9 pd tdis weigh as much as a VR6!?

I wonder does anyone have the actual wieght figures for the various diesel engines? and comparisons to other engines would be pretty interesting :D

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Reply #4September 18, 2006, 07:20:39 am

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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2006, 07:20:39 am »
I am pretty sure that the 1.9 ALH TDI block that I shipped out weighed in at like 95 lbs I think, just food for thought
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Reply #5September 18, 2006, 01:48:23 pm

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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2006, 01:48:23 pm »
a 1.6NA with oil, alternator, water pump, manifolds, injection pump, but no coolant weighs 250lbs. That's without the tranny, which weighs 60-75
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Reply #6September 18, 2006, 04:30:23 pm

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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2006, 04:30:23 pm »
Surprisingly, when I did my gas---> diesel swap, the ride height stayed the same.

Reply #7September 18, 2006, 08:07:03 pm

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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2006, 08:07:03 pm »
Quote from: Trev0rbr
lower is better, i have no clue why, but for some reason the diesels are heavier, dunno why.
They are build to survive much high peak cylinder pressures, so the pistons have a heck of a lot more metal in them. The block is also strengthened. I think the crank and conrods are also heavier, not sure though.
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Reply #8September 18, 2006, 09:14:56 pm

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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2006, 09:14:56 pm »
250 for an NA ? Hummmmmm  If I had known that I would not have pulled my turbo quantum out by myself  using cut seatbelts while standing  on the shock towers..........   :shock: I guess spotting it w only 1/2 hr before closing at p&p sacto will motovate one's greedy bone...........Turbo VW??????  I gotta have it!!!!!!!! :lol:
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Reply #9September 19, 2006, 04:58:02 am

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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2006, 04:58:02 am »
Same deal, went to a Patec cup kit, front seams really low, and only have a 1.6D, may have to get VR6 coils when I do my 1.9TD transplant later.
Will keep researching this and post when I have more info.
Thanks,
Hugh

Reply #10September 25, 2006, 06:38:41 pm

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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2006, 06:38:41 pm »
my 1.9 idi turbo, with manifolds, turbo, no alt, no tranny.... don't remember if there was a flywheel or oil in there when I threw it on the oh so accurate digital bathroom scale weighed in at....

275 lbs

Reply #11September 25, 2006, 08:55:56 pm

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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2006, 08:55:56 pm »
Quote from: moosiah
250 for an NA ? Hummmmmm  If I had known that I would not have pulled my turbo quantum out by myself  using cut seatbelts while standing  on the shock towers..........   :shock::








dude i towed my old caddy from dayton ohio to cleveland ohio with the pass side caddy seatbelt
it was towed with my g/f's 90 passat
hey ohio guys,thats far right??gotta be 3-4 hours driving normally
yea my g/f drove all the way down to tow me,and there wasnt a rope in the car like i thought
so i made a rope real fast
seat belts are way strong :D  :lol:
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Reply #12September 25, 2006, 09:44:38 pm

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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2006, 09:44:38 pm »
yo macsdub      what ever works ,,,,,,     :D  ya got home right?? :lol:
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