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June 26, 2006, 06:30:15 am

MRTANGOMAN

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« on: June 26, 2006, 06:30:15 am »
:oops:  HI

it has probley been cover on here b4 .
but is fitting a garret t25 to my gtd 1.6
going to make any difference??   (it has a t2 on at the mo')
i ask as i been offered a t25 that was rebuilt last year.
and what to get all "MODS" done to the engine before i drop it in.

also does anyone know where i can get a downpipe for this engine into a mk1 golf caddy??

sorry for all the questions

cheers    :?

Reply #1June 26, 2006, 12:22:26 pm

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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2006, 12:22:26 pm »
Mr T
The downpipe must be available in most exhaust retailers. If i can get one for my TD Passat mk2 then it should not bea problem.

Not sure on turbo differences beyond smaller ones spool up faster. My KKK ones all provide plenty of umph at 10psi. What with all those speedtraps we now have :?
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Reply #2June 26, 2006, 12:31:54 pm

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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2006, 12:31:54 pm »
As far as i can figure out
they didn't fit the 1.6 td into a mk1 golf
the mk2 was the first i think???

Reply #3June 26, 2006, 12:59:56 pm

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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2006, 12:59:56 pm »
The t25 might just be too big. I'm using that and i dont get any serious boost until 3500rpm. Might be that you have a smaller turbine (t2?) that could be good...

Reply #4June 26, 2006, 01:30:27 pm

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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2006, 01:30:27 pm »
Quote from: MRTANGOMAN
As far as i can figure out
they didn't fit the 1.6 td into a mk1 golf
the mk2 was the first i think???


yes mk1's did get the td in mk1 jettas and rabbits (usa name for golf I) in 1983-1984
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81 Rabbit:TDI-M ported head, Frank06 cam, PD intake, hybrid T3 turbo, Renault intercooler, Syl20 11mm pump, light weight fw, and yellow California Clutch clutch kit

Reply #5June 27, 2006, 03:38:20 am

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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2006, 03:38:20 am »
Reet mate! - you came on over then!

MK1 did get the odd TD motor, but you won't find a downpipe anywhere.

Stick a tapping for an EGT gauge in before you fit motor - I'm wishing I'd done mine.

Gonna be trying to fire up my Caddy GTD tonight! Just need a return hose making for the diesel pump to filter.  :D

Reply #6June 27, 2006, 06:42:33 am

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gauges.....t25 turbo ??
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2006, 06:42:33 am »
found these guages on the forum

http://airworlduk.com/falcon4.html

anyone fitted these?
being aircraft quality guess they'll be up to the job!!

the t25 question  ... better or not????

its cheep so i may buy it anyway!!! :wink:

or should i just gofore the kkk k24 turbo

questions ......questions   :lol:

Reply #7June 27, 2006, 06:44:54 am

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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2006, 06:44:54 am »
oh and one more :roll:

egt sender b4 the turbo or after???

Reply #8June 27, 2006, 08:30:28 am

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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2006, 08:30:28 am »
Nice prices on those gauges!  :D

Reply #9June 27, 2006, 01:30:47 pm

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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2006, 01:30:47 pm »
Here is a link to the MK1 TD downpipe
http://www.passengerperformance.com/
and the discussion that went on regarding it
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2269911

I've heard that techtonics sells them now but I'm not sure
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Reply #10June 27, 2006, 03:45:23 pm

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« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2006, 03:45:23 pm »
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oh and one more :roll:

egt sender b4 the turbo or after???

before turbo,its better there, i drilled my manifold right in the joined portion,the tip actually would go up in the snail some ,with the way i angled the drill hole...... nice project :D
Throttle cables ftw

Reply #11June 27, 2006, 03:59:47 pm

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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2006, 03:59:47 pm »
well i've brought the t25 turbo now  :?

don't quite know if i've done the right thing??

but i'm also looking at a cheap kkk k24   :)

don't know which to fit or just stay with the garret t2

mmm

i'll free off all the turbo mounting nut copper slip'em

and have a play with different ones....

starting point ---which one you think???    :idea:

Reply #12June 28, 2006, 08:15:36 am

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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2006, 08:15:36 am »
Hello mate,

I'm in the UK too and have done this swap, I'm in the process of making up a proper downpipe now, and its proving to be a right PITA :evil:

I would seriously consider one from passenger performance

I've got an aircraft egt guage in mine, and its great, really fast acting, and about a third the price of one from a car place :roll: I have no idea why people are prepared to pay silly prices beacuse it a 'performance car part'

definately go pre turbine with the sender - its just so much more accurate

if you're really into making power, you might want to do the govenor mod which may be easier with the engine out, as it involves taking the injection pump off, then you could run with the k24 and get proper fueling higher up in the revs, though I've stayed with the smaller k14 (came on the GTD enigne standard) and it spools up really nice and quick and will still push 1.5 bar, I'm running at about 1.3 at the moment :twisted:

you could also get the fittings for a boost controller with the lump out, just a bit less fiddly

a front mount intercooler is definately worth looking into

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Reply #13June 28, 2006, 01:59:10 pm

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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2006, 01:59:10 pm »
mmm now i've got 3 turbos :!:  :!:

the standard  T2 ....
A  T25...   and the kkk k24  turbo..

ooo
which one  :?  should i start with..

how easy is it  to change the turbo with the engine in??

i don't want to start swopping turbos if its a pain in the arse..