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Geo Tracker: diesel or replacement gasser?
by
bhtooefr
on 18 Mar, 2006 16:38
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My dad is considering getting a Geo Tracker that isn't holding compression in cylinder 2. It is a slushbox (he needs a slushbox).
He would be willing to pay at most $1000 to get a replacement 1.6 gasser in there (installed).
However... the fuel economy ratings SUCK for the 1.6 gasser.
He'd be willing to pay a little more to get a 1.6TD in there.
How involved would this be, to put a 1.6TD in it? How much would it cost (estimated)?
All prices in USD. I don't think he'd be willing to go to Canada to get the engine.
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#1
by
firestorm13666
on 18 Mar, 2006 17:27
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I think about $1000.There is a site that sells the parts need to do the swap for a resonable price i have it but i can not find it right now but i know someone eles on here will give it to you if i do not find it.Also one or more members here have a Zunk with the done.[/url]
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#2
by
zyewdall
on 19 Mar, 2006 06:56
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That $1000 figure is just for the kit, not including the engine right? I've found it very hard to find the TD engines in the US, so if he's not willing to go to canada for it, the chances of finding a used TD for cheap seems pretty low.
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#3
by
bhtooefr
on 19 Mar, 2006 16:15
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Well, Canada is now fair game.
Apparently, this Tracker is *VERY* nice, just has an engine that's nearly scrap metal.
My dad was even thinking TDI, but that'd be *WAY* out of his budget and too complex with electricals.
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#4
by
wyldman
on 19 Mar, 2006 19:36
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I can probabaly hook you up with an engine if you need one.
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#5
by
bhtooefr
on 20 Mar, 2006 06:03
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Could you PM me with how much it would cost? He's got a pickup, so he could get it easily.
Also, this one's for the Ohio people: can you guys recommend a shop to do this?
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#6
by
BlackTieTD
on 20 Mar, 2006 06:09
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IMO look for a nice mkI or mkII 1.6D or TD and stick a slushy in there.. can usually get an auto box for free especially in the spring... garage cleaning.
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#7
by
bhtooefr
on 20 Mar, 2006 06:22
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Yeah, but a Geo Tracker has more of what he needs when it comes to size.
It rides high (good), it's big (good), he can get in and out of it easily (good), and for what it is it's economical. And, if diesel's fair game, it'll get awesome economy.
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#8
by
BlackTieTD
on 20 Mar, 2006 06:25
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sorry man but, its a GEO TRACKER. :lol: i couldn't hold it in any longer.
good luck with it man, just giving you a hard time
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#9
by
bhtooefr
on 20 Mar, 2006 16:28
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Anyway, anyone got a kit that ISN'T the Acme Adapters kit?
Dr. Diesel? (I know you've got a Sunrunner that you're putting a 1.9TD into...)
It needs to work on a slushbox, and the engine + adapter can't cost more than $1000, preferably with modified gearing such that the tranny is in the optimal rev range for the diesel - the gasser has peak horsepower at 5600 RPMs.
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#10
by
BlackTieTD
on 21 Mar, 2006 08:06
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how much does a 1.6TD go for down there? i know they are a lot harder to find than up here. there are some local guys who might be able to ship one down to you...
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#11
by
bhtooefr
on 21 Mar, 2006 09:53
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Well, it's starting to look cost prohibitive to do this.
We found a 1.6 Suzuki gasser with 100K miles on it for (USD, of course) $550, FWIW.
As for engine cost, let's just say that a 1.6TD donor car costs about as much as a 1.9TDI donor car around here, if it's wrecked. And a rebuilt? $3000 before the core charge, IIRC.
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#12
by
Dr. Diesel
on 21 Mar, 2006 10:01
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check out acmeadapters.com That's where I bought my kit from. I don't believe they make a kit for autos.
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#13
by
bhtooefr
on 21 Mar, 2006 10:16
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OK, so Acme's the only way to go.
Note the $250 option for an auto.
Well, the cost of an Acme means that the only cost-effective option will be a replacement gasser. $795 + $250 eats up the budget for the adaptor AND the engine, and that's just the adaptor.