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Reply #30December 04, 2013, 11:05:02 pm

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« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2013, 11:05:02 pm »
Bigger, heh. I can dig the edit.

Yup, that is what i measured for him. His picture was a line drawn in paint, of an image where you could not easily take a picture at that angle and see both ends properly. Unless you were 3 feet above it or something.

The end of my tape measure is at the outer edge, and the 8" mark is at the holes. I took the picture, not 7 1/2", 8".

Reply #31December 04, 2013, 11:05:33 pm

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« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2013, 11:05:33 pm »
he is in his argumenitive stupid mode tonight... now worth the effort libby... giz can see the photo...

Yup, he can. Its 8".

Reply #32December 04, 2013, 11:17:10 pm

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Re: What are normal charge temps for a WAIC at 75 F ambient?
« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2013, 11:17:10 pm »


Gizmo was asking for the dimension highlighted in RED.  The end of your tape measure is not even in the photo but judging by the little metal doohickey I would place it round about where the big BLUE line is.  The distance between the end of the RED and the BLUE lines needs to be subtracted from 8" in order to give the desired dimension, unless, as I said, there's something in that pic that is seriously warped...

Reply #33December 04, 2013, 11:22:08 pm

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« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2013, 11:22:08 pm »
I read his post just fine, and understood his picture with the pretty red lines just fine.

Angle of the picture taken as previously described. 8" from red line to red line.

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Reply #34December 04, 2013, 11:23:52 pm

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« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2013, 11:23:52 pm »
Mine is way bigger.  How about I show you yours instead...  Gizmo asked for the measurement between the bolt holes and the outer edge of the inlet.  It looks like the end of your tape is hanging over the end of the manifold by a fair bit with the 8" mark right on the bolt holes.  OK, maybe 7-1/2"...  Definitely not 8" unless something in your photo is seriously warped.

That is all.

Reply #35December 04, 2013, 11:31:04 pm

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« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2013, 11:31:04 pm »
So, what you're saying is that your measuring skills exceed your technical photography skills and so, your picture is entirely misleading.  Right on.   

Reply #36December 04, 2013, 11:32:52 pm

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« Reply #36 on: December 04, 2013, 11:32:52 pm »
IT was misleading. That is why I originally said;

8" exactly Gizmoman.

To deter any sort of misleading. I'm sorry to get you all caught up on the small details.

Edited: for grammatical errors.
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Reply #37December 04, 2013, 11:35:22 pm

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« Reply #37 on: December 04, 2013, 11:35:22 pm »
Why do you say you want to postpone being misleading?

Reply #38December 04, 2013, 11:36:59 pm

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« Reply #38 on: December 04, 2013, 11:36:59 pm »
Lol.

Reply #39December 04, 2013, 11:42:27 pm

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Re: What are normal charge temps for a WAIC at 75 F ambient?
« Reply #39 on: December 04, 2013, 11:42:27 pm »
Wow - lots of response ;D - Thanks for the great photos 8-V
What I am looking for is the distance from the bolt CL to the highest point of the casting. Then I can see if it will fit under the lid by measuring from my bolt CL.
It's a great looking casting for sure. Interested in selling?
I am PMing right now with "burn_your_money" as he has an AHU manifold - not sure if it will work out for me though as it seems quite tall. When I look at ones online though it appears shorter than the PD150

So I guess it's 8"? or should I postpone this for a different measurement ;D
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Reply #40December 05, 2013, 12:00:28 am

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« Reply #40 on: December 05, 2013, 12:00:28 am »
I trust (and appreciate) 8v's response - 8" from bolt CL to highest point on the casting. I'll check it tomorrow after work and see if I have room.

Thanks all.
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Reply #41December 05, 2013, 09:09:22 am

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« Reply #41 on: December 05, 2013, 09:09:22 am »
No offense to Gizmoman, but how can a guy in a garage hacking up manifolds and welding on runners be ideal?

i think for alot of reasons this can be better, a factory manifold is a balance of form factor, cost of production, emissions, and lastly performance, someone doing garage hacking can put alot more attention to detail into their manifold by using tuned runner lengths, and specific plenum sizing, a lot more attention than a manifold that they're making a million sand castings of, machining the mating surfaces flat and then sending on down the line.
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Reply #42December 05, 2013, 09:28:04 am

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Re: What are normal charge temps for a WAIC at 75 F ambient?
« Reply #42 on: December 05, 2013, 09:28:04 am »
No offense to Gizmoman, but how can a guy in a garage hacking up manifolds and welding on runners be ideal?

i think for alot of reasons this can be better, a factory manifold is a balance of form factor, cost of production, emissions, and lastly performance, someone doing garage hacking can put alot more attention to detail into their manifold by using tuned runner lengths, and specific plenum sizing, a lot more attention than a manifold that they're making a million sand castings of, machining the mating surfaces flat and then sending on down the line.
Thanks RabbitJockey, I did put a lot of thought into it - and it may work yet ;)
If I could lower the EGT's to 1100 max (without backing off the fuel screw), I'd be a happy camper - it is a Westfalia after all.
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Reply #43December 05, 2013, 08:46:02 pm

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Re: What are normal charge temps for a WAIC at 75 F ambient?
« Reply #43 on: December 05, 2013, 08:46:02 pm »
I measured from the top if my IC/intake and have more room than I thought.



The PD150 should fit easily but as Theman has suggested, I may just fabricate something with runners.

First I need to see if I can get the IC to work better after I open up the coolant ports.
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Reply #44December 06, 2013, 07:37:30 am

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« Reply #44 on: December 06, 2013, 07:37:30 am »
holy cow I missed a huge part. You said 1/8npt...the inlet for your rad is 3/4" so you should be using no less than 3/4 like 745 and those said. I thought you had 1/2"npt for some reason I read it wrong. I bet that will get you much cooler doing that this weekend. Now will it help egt or not is the next question.