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Help with turbo selection!!!!
by
Gator79
on 14 Oct, 2013 13:34
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I have a aaz that I was running a callaway manifold and turbo on, the manifold and turbo happen to break and blow at the same time.
So now I'm left with getting a new manifold and turbo and have no idea on what would be best. Not interested in oem aaz or 1.6td turbo set ups I want to go aftermarket. This will be for a daily driver not looking for high horse power or anything crazy just a good fun dd.
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#1
by
CRSMP5
on 14 Oct, 2013 22:43
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stop... go look at theman's build thread in this section.. his holeset set up.. uses calloway style manifold.. he found repos for good price.. and holset turbo too...
id try that so down pipe/ic plumbing can sort of match up..
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#2
by
RabbitJockey
on 15 Oct, 2013 04:24
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no that turbo isn't ideal for a daily drive tho
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#3
by
CrazyAndy
on 16 Oct, 2013 17:02
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Not even an OEM VNT? That would be fun.
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#4
by
theman53
on 17 Oct, 2013 04:45
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I will say that the holset I have works well as a daily. If you are not looking for ultimate power then the other one alcaid recommends is the he211w it is supposed to do almost as well as the one I have the he221w. I am cruising with .5 to 3 psi at 55 mph and it boosts well. So the slightly smaller he211w should be perfect for a daily. I think both use t 25 manifolds.
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#5
by
Alcaid
on 19 Oct, 2013 12:00
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Both are T25 yes, even the smallest HE211W should do 200bhp on these IDI engines (dynoed 173whp on a 1.6TD)
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#6
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 21 Oct, 2013 13:59
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I really like the way my GT2056V performs...
my favorite turbo on a warmed-up 1.6TD is the VNT17 off a stock TDI tho..
oh god, they pull hard, make plenty of boost, and sound amazing with a straight exhaust!
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#7
by
theman53
on 21 Oct, 2013 14:20
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I really like the way my GT2056V performs...
my favorite turbo on a warmed-up 1.6TD is the VNT17 off a stock TDI tho..
oh god, they pull hard, make plenty of boost, and sound amazing with a straight exhaust!
Vnt 15 were most of the stock TDI. Even what is called was the 17 was a 1549vb. IIRC
For what I have ran a big turbo is just fine. The holset I have now is large and spools better than my old k24 did. So I say big turbos always.
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#8
by
theman53
on 21 Oct, 2013 14:34
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To add to this. After having a couple 270 degree bearings and a couple 360 degree bearings in the turbos I would only recommend the 360. I think the 270 degree bearing is the entire reason some say that the t3 and k24 are slow to spool. Obviously I haven't had a ball bearing turbo but imagine they are better yet. I have heard they are not as long lasting as our regular bearing turbos. Fwiw the rebuilder says every holset comes with a 360 bearing stock. The small Cummins turbo I think would be on the absolute big side of what could work for us.
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#9
by
Alcaid
on 22 Oct, 2013 00:05
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All Holsets have 360° thrust bearings, IMO running these IDI engines with a 270° thrust bearing turbo is a disaster meant to happen as the thrust forces these turbos sees needs the support and lubrication of the 360° bearing. The OEM Garretts and KKKs brake down in no time when you crank up the boost to a decent level.
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#10
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 23 Oct, 2013 14:25
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I really like the way my GT2056V performs...
my favorite turbo on a warmed-up 1.6TD is the VNT17 off a stock TDI tho..
oh god, they pull hard, make plenty of boost, and sound amazing with a straight exhaust!
Vnt 15 were most of the stock TDI. Even what is called was the 17 was a 1549vb. IIRC
For what I have ran a big turbo is just fine. The holset I have now is large and spools better than my old k24 did. So I say big turbos always.
GT1749V (vnt15) my bad...
my VNTs always spooled faster than the K24 i ran..
i ran my K24 with a "magic" (unhooked) wastegate...
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#11
by
Alcaid
on 24 Oct, 2013 00:28
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I will say that the holset I have works well as a daily. If you are not looking for ultimate power then the other one alcaid recommends is the he211w it is supposed to do almost as well as the one I have the he221w. I am cruising with .5 to 3 psi at 55 mph and it boosts well. So the slightly smaller he211w should be perfect for a daily. I think both use t 25 manifolds.
Worth mentioning is that the HE221W you are running is not the most common one, as that one has a 7cm turbine housing (your's is 5cm) and slightly bigger wheels so it would be way more laggy on our small displacement engines. The one you have is a newer and improved version that's just recently been released on the market.
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#12
by
theman53
on 24 Oct, 2013 06:23
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How do you specify the 5cm housing? FWIW I like the turbo, and would never have another turbo without the 360 bearing. That T3 with the 360 was cool too. I am mostly afraid of the V band to silicone coupler on mine. If someone made a 1.75 v band in aluminum or if over there you have some on the industrial engine it was designed for I maybe interested. Over here they are non existent.
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#13
by
One_punchmachinegun
on 24 Oct, 2013 19:27
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What do you think the holset would be like on a Tdi, I'm figuring the K24 will go at some point. Would you recommend the one your running for a Tdi, also interested in the HE211W. When I search the turbo, almost all the sites look like the turbos are manufactured in China. Also from what I have seen in searching is that they come on a Cummins engine?
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#14
by
theman53
on 24 Oct, 2013 20:03
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I bet the 211 would be perfect on a TDI