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Oil cooler questions. Looking at universal setup.
by
GTFORZA
on 08 Apr, 2013 14:15
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Locking at the kit from ecs.
http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-Jetta_I--Diesel/Engine/Cooling/Oil_Cooler/ES1892558/ does anyone know if this would replace the factory oil cooler on my 84 1.6 cy turbo diesel or does it go in the place of the filter and the filter goes on the bottom of it. I would prefer to separate the oil cooling and the coolant system for prevention of the factory oil cooler causing contamination. I have some other upgrades planned that would put more stress on the motor. I've already figured out an air to water intercooler setup, made a twin fan shroud for use with twin low-pro fans. Just wanting some insight. Any info would be great.
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#1
by
GTFORZA
on 08 Apr, 2013 14:20
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#2
by
GTFORZA
on 08 Apr, 2013 14:29
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For some reason I think the oil filter is a standard size. Like 3/4-16
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#3
by
745 turbogreasel
on 08 Apr, 2013 16:24
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You can use a Volvo sandwich plate, and an oil cooler from a bigger vehicle to accomplish the same thing for less than half the cost.
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#4
by
bajacalal
on 08 Apr, 2013 17:00
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It looks like the sandwich plate and threaded shaft is included, but... $200!!?!?!?!!
You can get the sandwich plate + oil cooler + some high pressure hose and fittings for less than half that cost at summitracing.com,, but you won't get "blingy" stainless steel stuff (but you don't really need it anyway).
Or you could just go to a junkyard and find a Volvo 740 turbo, as mentioned, and probably pay $20 or $30 for the sandwich plate and decently sized oil cooler that is on the side of the Volvo radiator. The Mercedes 300d has a big oil cooler too.
I believe the VW actually does use 3/4" thread for the oil filter, not metric.
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#5
by
GTFORZA
on 08 Apr, 2013 19:05
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Could I just remove the factory cooler and reuse the old 3/4"-16 cooler adaptor?
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#6
by
745 turbogreasel
on 08 Apr, 2013 19:09
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Going the Volvo route, you'd want the Volvo block nipple. I didn't think of that, and had to buy an expensive die to shorten the air/water one.
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#7
by
wolf_walker
on 08 Apr, 2013 22:22
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Been a guy on vortex in the A1 parts section selling external oil cooler setups for awhile now, worth looking up.
The Volvo bit is good stuff. Almost anything is better than the oil/water factory junk.
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#8
by
8v-of-fury
on 08 Apr, 2013 23:08
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Now what of ones with a thermostat? Necessary? You don't always want your oil as cold as possible do you?!
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#9
by
theman53
on 08 Apr, 2013 23:39
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Right on 8v, the one libby found at SUmmit Racing was perfect. It was also only 30.00 IIRC.
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#10
by
wolf_walker
on 09 Apr, 2013 01:20
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#11
by
8v-of-fury
on 09 Apr, 2013 20:06
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I have read some accounts of dudes not runnin a thermo.. And they claim (with an oil temp gauge) no effect in warm up times.
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#12
by
wolf_walker
on 10 Apr, 2013 00:16
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If ambient is enough and the cooler is small enough, and the motor makes enough heat, sure I'd believe that. But I personally will not have a car I can't drive anytime, anywhere. I've been on the road in cold enough weather in a blizzard that my na 1.6 couldn't maintain normal op temp and heater output at sustained 3rd gear crawling through snow. Too easy to run a tstat to not do it in my book. But I'm nitpicky. A couple UOA's would tell the tail.
Track or play car would be another story.
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#13
by
theman53
on 10 Apr, 2013 09:07
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I used a cooler that was 13x7x1 with 1/2" lines. If you don't have a thermo on that cooler you oil will have a hard time getting up to temps.
Libby found one for around 30 dollars that bolted on perfectly in place of the stock deal. It has a thermostat in it. It was from summit racing, but I cannot remember who made it. As a new part I used I fully endorce it if you find it.
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#14
by
libbydiesel
on 10 Apr, 2013 10:28
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