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Reply #60March 01, 2013, 12:22:55 pm

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« Reply #60 on: March 01, 2013, 12:22:55 pm »
Last night, I pickup this little trinket...






Reply #61March 01, 2013, 12:59:51 pm

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« Reply #61 on: March 01, 2013, 12:59:51 pm »
The USU Aggie team is using some kind of Chinese generator V-twin engine. 

I think what UnderPSI is saying is that the Winders team de-activated 2 cyliders of their 1.5L VW streamliner engine to get under the 1.0L displacement limit for the I-size engine class within SCTA rules.  While not exactly common, it is not exactly uncommon to do things like that for LSR attempts.

The Aggies got to hold the record for brief period of time, but the Winders streamliner took it away from them in short order.

Regardless of the duration of the Aggies' recordholding status, they did set and hold a record.



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you would think that the pumping losses from having 2!! dead cylinders would be enough to give the engine almost no useable power?!

and WTF are you gonna do with that little tiny turbo? your more than likely going to need something MUCH larger..

that turbo looks MICROSCOPIC, even in terms of VW diesels... appears to be smaller than the infamous K03 even..

i see RESTRICTION written all over that little guy..

or were you planning on boosting your lawn tractor?! lol..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #62March 01, 2013, 01:01:16 pm

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« Reply #62 on: March 01, 2013, 01:01:16 pm »
It's a GT2056.

Reply #63March 01, 2013, 01:08:11 pm

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« Reply #63 on: March 01, 2013, 01:08:11 pm »
... and I suspect that the devil is in the details of HOW they reduced the 1.5 down to .75 Liters to set the existing I/DS record.  Perhaps the other 2 cylinders were empty...
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Reply #64March 01, 2013, 01:41:51 pm

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« Reply #64 on: March 01, 2013, 01:41:51 pm »
Last night, I pickup this little trinket...







Tell us more!!

Is that a GT2056?  I am thinking about one of those for my M-TDI build.  I'll be very interested to see what you think of it!!
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Reply #65March 01, 2013, 01:51:48 pm

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« Reply #65 on: March 01, 2013, 01:51:48 pm »
no way thats a 2056...

Chris and my 2056s are WAY BIGGER..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #66March 01, 2013, 01:54:38 pm

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« Reply #66 on: March 01, 2013, 01:54:38 pm »
I guess it's a matter of perspective.  There isn't much else in the photo to compare to the size of the turbo. 

Steve

Reply #67March 01, 2013, 01:58:48 pm

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« Reply #67 on: March 01, 2013, 01:58:48 pm »
I guess it's a matter of perspective.  There isn't much else in the photo to compare to the size of the turbo. 

Steve

i know how big the oil line restrictor is, and every aspect of that turbo is smaller than my 2056vnt..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #68March 01, 2013, 02:09:32 pm

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« Reply #68 on: March 01, 2013, 02:09:32 pm »
The USU Aggie team is using some kind of Chinese generator V-twin engine. 
Steve.

you would think that the pumping losses from having 2!! dead cylinders would be enough to give the engine almost no useable power?!

and WTF are you gonna do with that little tiny turbo? your more than likely going to need something MUCH larger..

that turbo looks MICROSCOPIC, even in terms of VW diesels... appears to be smaller than the infamous K03 even..

i see RESTRICTION written all over that little guy..

or were you planning on boosting your lawn tractor?! lol..

What kind of lawn mower is your GT2056 mounted on? LOL.

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Reply #70March 01, 2013, 02:20:40 pm

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« Reply #70 on: March 01, 2013, 02:20:40 pm »
The USU Aggie team is using some kind of Chinese generator V-twin engine. 
Steve.

you would think that the pumping losses from having 2!! dead cylinders would be enough to give the engine almost no useable power?!

and WTF are you gonna do with that little tiny turbo? your more than likely going to need something MUCH larger..

that turbo looks MICROSCOPIC, even in terms of VW diesels... appears to be smaller than the infamous K03 even..

i see RESTRICTION written all over that little guy..

or were you planning on boosting your lawn tractor?! lol..

What kind of lawn mower is your GT2056 mounted on? LOL.

maybe its just the pic, but the hot side of my 2056 is held on with 6 bolts, and the hot side is almost as large as the cold side..

my cold side is bigger than a stock T3 cold side..

take a pic of it next to a tape measure, or a lighter, or a pop can..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #71March 01, 2013, 02:22:09 pm

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« Reply #71 on: March 01, 2013, 02:22:09 pm »
... and I suspect that the devil is in the details of HOW they reduced the 1.5 down to .75 Liters to set the existing I/DS record.  Perhaps the other 2 cylinders were empty...

yeah i would think so, theres definitely a few things that could be done to remove the pistons, i remember seeing a "portable" air compressor it was a ford v8, one side was basically a 4 cylinder, the other side was 4 a cylinder compressor.

physical size of a turbo doesn't mean much, its all about the wheel sizes and the size of the turbine housing.  but i think most advances with turbo technology in the last 20 years have been mainly on the exhaust side.  gt2056 is a great turbo on paper, so i would expect nothing but stellar results from this thing.

u gotta keep in mind also that your turbo is probably very different, i would bet it has a different compressor wheel and also that the vnt stuff adds some size to the turbo.
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Reply #72March 01, 2013, 02:23:18 pm

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« Reply #72 on: March 01, 2013, 02:23:18 pm »
VNT exhaust housings are muuuuch larger than wastegated housings.
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Reply #73March 01, 2013, 02:25:41 pm

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« Reply #73 on: March 01, 2013, 02:25:41 pm »
Since I don't have it in front of me right now, my memory says that the hot side is held on with 4 bolts instead of the 6.

I have no idea about Garrett's part numbering system (2056 vs 2056 VNT).  I could not find any 2056v or VNT in the standard Garrett catalog.  I suspect this may be due to the VNT's being OEM equipment to Mercedes, etc.

I only know that it's a GT2056, that was the turbo recommended by several sources and my own "homework".  It should be up to the task of the HP level I'm looking for, and offer some room to grow.

Steve.

Reply #74March 01, 2013, 02:45:56 pm

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« Reply #74 on: March 01, 2013, 02:45:56 pm »
Since I don't have it in front of me right now, my memory says that the hot side is held on with 4 bolts instead of the 6.

I have no idea about Garrett's part numbering system (2056 vs 2056 VNT).  I could not find any 2056v or VNT in the standard Garrett catalog.  I suspect this may be due to the VNT's being OEM equipment to Mercedes, etc.

I only know that it's a GT2056, that was the turbo recommended by several sources and my own "homework".  It should be up to the task of the HP level I'm looking for, and offer some room to grow.

Steve.

gt is the series theres also gta, gtb, gtx, and so on.  20 is the exhaust size, i think its more of a designation for the turbine wheel family, in this case t2, the 56 is the exducer size of the compressor wheel, but trim size could one of many.
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