Time to start assembling 1.5 TD / 1.9L Franken Diesel.

[bbob203]

I think 2 bar is his max boost

[theman53]

These were also probably 1.6L engines not the 1.5 you are running.

[Jetmugg]

I think 2 bar is his max boost

...so 3 bars absolute pressure, correct?  I just want to make sure my thinking is aligned with the numbers people are using.

Steve.

[UnderPSI]

The Winder's team is a 72 y/o man, his son's only drive for him. The salt is very different to run on. There's another 1.5 diesel team coming next year as well.

[RabbitJockey]

I think 2 bar is his max boost

...so 3 bars absolute pressure, correct?  I just want to make sure my thinking is aligned with the numbers people are using.

Steve.

right.

[carrizog60]

These were also probably 1.6L engines not the 1.5 you are running.

yes,was a 1.6 diesel mechanical lifters

[Jetmugg]

The Winder's team is a 72 y/o man, his son's only drive for him. The salt is very different to run on. There's another 1.5 diesel team coming next year as well.

I have the utmost respect for his/their efforts and achievements.  The Winders team currently holds at least 6 Land Speed Records in small-displacement truck and streamliner categories (after a quick look at SCTA records).  That's a dominant presence in anybody's book.

The previous recordholder (Before Jesse's team) in H/DT was Mike Manghelli, who is also in the absolute upper echelon of LSR racers, holding records in trucks, roadsters, streamliners, and motorcycles.  His Rabbit Pickup is on the verge of 200MPH with a VR6 for power.  He ran something like 195 with a 2.0L gasser.

Those guys are not lightweights by any means.  If it was easy to beat any of their records, someone would have already done it.

This has been a lifelong dream for me, just to get to Bonneville and experience "the fastest place on earth".  I''ve read everything I could get my hands on, looked at every photo, seen every movie.  I know that some people look at the records and think that it would be easy to break one.  I have no misconceptions about that.  My primary goal is to be competitive.  Of course, in the pit of my heart, I want my name in that record book, just like every else who has ever run at Bonneville.

Last year, I believe at SpeedWeek, a guy from Ohio brought another H/DT entry.  I think the name was Aaron's Salt Toy, or something similar (#8217).  I never saw a photo or heard a description of that truck, but they are "in the game" as well.

UnderPSI - when you mentioned another 1.5D racer, would that happen to be the USU Aggie A Salt team, who briefly held the I/DS record last year (for about a day), before the Winders boys took it away from them?

In any case, it looks like there's a lot of activity in the smaller displacement diesel classes.  It is very exciting.  I'm looking forward to this trip of a lifetime in September.

I appreciate all of the help I have received from this board.  This is the internet at its best, sharing information that would otherwise be VERY difficult to obtain.

Steve.


 

[vanbcguy]

This has been a lifelong dream for me, just to get to Bonneville and experience "the fastest place on earth".  I''ve read everything I could get my hands on, looked at every photo, seen every movie.  I know that some people look at the records and think that it would be easy to break one.  I have no misconceptions about that.  My primary goal is to be competitive.  Of course, in the pit of my heart, I want my name in that record book, just like every else who has ever run at Bonneville.

In any case, it looks like there's a lot of activity in the smaller displacement diesel classes.  It is very exciting.  I'm looking forward to this trip of a lifetime in September.

I appreciate all of the help I have received from this board.  This is the internet at its best, sharing information that would otherwise be VERY difficult to obtain.

I'm sure everyone on here appreciates helping!! Someone needs to get you a vwdiesel.net sticker for the back window (if anyone still has 'em??)

I'm very much enjoying watching your build process, especially in the 1.5L class.  I think folks often underestimate how much you can do with a small engine, especially in "Bigger is Better" America.  Hauling a trailer at interstate speeds and still being able to whiz past people with my 1.6TD is pretty darn impressive in itself!  Can't wait till you start building things up.

[carrizog60]

wont say that the 1.6 speed record look "easy" to beat but it as come in my head many times...

[UnderPSI]

The Agg team had the record over night, built a 750cc vw diesel at the salt to take that record.

[UnderPSI]

wont say that the 1.6 speed record look "easy" to beat but it as come in my head many times...

Running a 1.6 puts you in the 2.0 class.

[Jetmugg]

The Agg team had the record over night, built a 750cc vw diesel at the salt to take that record.

That's real ingenuity!  I assume they did the same kind of thing for some of the smaller displacement gasser records.  That's one of the quirky/cool things about Bonneville (even though I've never been there).  I have read and heard about so many unique engine/drivetrain/vehicle combinations.

The machine shop that did the work on my stuff had recently finished a V4 Chevy (cut down a Chevy V8 to a V4) for another Bonneville racer, that uses Subaru cylinder heads from a horizontally opposed 4 cyl.  Wild stuff.

Steve.

[92EcoDiesel Jetta]

The Agg team had the record over night, built a 750cc vw diesel at the salt to take that record.

VW made a 750  cc diesel? Or did the Agg team cut a 1.5 in half? 

[R.O.R-2.0]

That's good power, no doubt.  I have always wondered something about boost numbers.  When you say at 2 bar, are you saying 2 bars above ambient pressure, or 2 bars absolute, including the 1 bar of ambient pressure? 

To make it work at Bonneville, I need to be able to put out that much power over a 3 mile long course.  That 3 miles is going to seem like an eternity with my foot buried on the floorboard for most of it.

I will have an air-water intercooler under the hood, with an icewater tank in the bed.

Steve

mine went bout 2 miles before it melted.. was going up hill, @100mph..

EGTs were prolly 16-1800* the whole way up..

3 miles flat out should be no problem..

[Jetmugg]

The USU Aggie team is using some kind of Chinese generator V-twin engine. 

I think what UnderPSI is saying is that the Winders team de-activated 2 cyliders of their 1.5L VW streamliner engine to get under the 1.0L displacement limit for the I-size engine class within SCTA rules.  While not exactly common, it is not exactly uncommon to do things like that for LSR attempts.

The Aggies got to hold the record for brief period of time, but the Winders streamliner took it away from them in short order.

Regardless of the duration of the Aggies' recordholding status, they did set and hold a record.



Steve.