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Reply #105March 07, 2013, 06:26:41 pm

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« Reply #105 on: March 07, 2013, 06:26:41 pm »
I have a MB 190 with an OM602 Turbo & 5-speed as my daily driver.  At some point, I may have him do my MBZ pump as well.

Steve

Reply #106March 08, 2013, 12:15:08 am

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« Reply #106 on: March 08, 2013, 12:15:08 am »
I have a MB 190 with an OM602 Turbo & 5-speed as my daily driver.  At some point, I may have him do my MBZ pump as well.

Steve

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Reply #107March 08, 2013, 03:57:13 am

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« Reply #107 on: March 08, 2013, 03:57:13 am »
His  455HP MBZ pump sounds pretty happy too, I doubt you will regret your choice.

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Reply #108March 08, 2013, 09:34:29 am

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« Reply #108 on: March 08, 2013, 09:34:29 am »
What is diesel keen charging to build a pump?
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Reply #109March 08, 2013, 10:54:18 am

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« Reply #109 on: March 08, 2013, 10:54:18 am »
If you want details, it's probably best to contact him directly with what you want. 

That being said, his pricing is competitive with Giles, with the difference being Goran is providing the pump in the price (I don't have to send him one).

That will allow me to keep the pump I got from Smoky Eddy as a backup.

There will obviously be some price difference in shipping, but that will just be another drop in the bucket for this whole project.

Steve


Reply #110March 08, 2013, 05:53:21 pm

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« Reply #110 on: March 08, 2013, 05:53:21 pm »
Steve, what I meant about the wastegate setting was to shorten the actuator length to reduce the preload on the wastegate flapper. Only needed if you see some surge. Hoping your head will flow enough so that it is avoided.

That generic manifold was used on the 173whp Franken dyno ;) tubular manifold, bigger turbo and ported head going in for this season. I have a sequential compond setup on the way for this season so I guess we will see how much our Dieselmeken pumps will dyno ;)
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Reply #111March 08, 2013, 09:51:32 pm

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« Reply #111 on: March 08, 2013, 09:51:32 pm »
If possible, I will run mine on a chassis dyno before going to Bonneville.  Otherwise, it will be tested on the "Great White Dyno" - which never lies.

Steve.

Reply #112March 13, 2013, 08:56:36 am

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« Reply #112 on: March 13, 2013, 08:56:36 am »
The Dieselmeken pump is complete and is on it's way to the USA!!!

Goran tested it to 3000 pump rpm (6000 engine rpm), and it produces a steady 90cc of output at that level.  He assures me that the pump will not be the limiting factor in my setup.



Steve.

Reply #113March 13, 2013, 09:07:35 am

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« Reply #113 on: March 13, 2013, 09:07:35 am »
that part number is hard to check on bosch catalogue  ;D
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Reply #114March 13, 2013, 09:36:02 am

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« Reply #114 on: March 13, 2013, 09:36:02 am »
My Dieselmeken pump has 130cc available ;)
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Reply #115March 13, 2013, 09:41:13 am

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« Reply #115 on: March 13, 2013, 09:41:13 am »
that part number is hard to check on bosch catalogue  ;D

Special part# - you have to look under "F".

Reply #116March 13, 2013, 10:27:00 am

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« Reply #116 on: March 13, 2013, 10:27:00 am »
My Dieselmeken pump has 130cc available ;)
Just wondering, at what point can we hydro lock these IDI engines? Granted I think the precup would heat up and push its way into the head and get loose beforehand *like mine did* but at some point when will there be too much fuel in the cylinder and it bends rods? 130cc is about 6x the size of the precup volume, so I am just wondering.

Reply #117March 13, 2013, 10:35:32 am

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« Reply #117 on: March 13, 2013, 10:35:32 am »
My Dieselmeken pump has 130cc available ;)
Just wondering, at what point can we hydro lock these IDI engines? Granted I think the precup would heat up and push its way into the head and get loose beforehand *like mine did* but at some point when will there be too much fuel in the cylinder and it bends rods? 130cc is about 6x the size of the precup volume, so I am just wondering.

Diesel fuel ignites and turns into a compressible gas, meaning it won't hydro lock. Although peak cylinder pressure will get too high at some point. I have Rosten H-beam rods and a crank girdle to keep the bottom end safe, ARP studs to keep the head bolted in place but at some point something will fail. Don't want to find that limit though ;)

A friend dynoed with 38psi of boost with stock rods and stock head bolts, no harm done ;)
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Reply #118March 13, 2013, 10:40:46 am

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« Reply #118 on: March 13, 2013, 10:40:46 am »
Any more information to share regarding that bottom end girdle?

Steve.

Reply #119March 13, 2013, 10:44:30 am

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« Reply #119 on: March 13, 2013, 10:44:30 am »
My Dieselmeken pump has 130cc available ;)
Just wondering, at what point can we hydro lock these IDI engines? Granted I think the precup would heat up and push its way into the head and get loose beforehand *like mine did* but at some point when will there be too much fuel in the cylinder and it bends rods? 130cc is about 6x the size of the precup volume, so I am just wondering.

Diesel fuel ignites and turns into a compressible gas, meaning it won't hydro lock. Although peak cylinder pressure will get too high at some point. I have Rosten H-beam rods and a crank girdle to keep the bottom end safe, ARP studs to keep the head bolted in place but at some point something will fail. Don't want to find that limit though ;)

A friend dynoed with 38psi of boost with stock rods and stock head bolts, no harm done ;)
I understand the ignition properties, but at some point we "could" have too much fuel for the air and not all of it would get burnt I would think. I guess this is the PCP you are speaking of that I am thinking would be hydro lock, but I guess if it is no longer a liquid it wouldn't be. Proper question is at what point is too much fuel turn into a PCP that is too much?