Author Topic: Deleting idle bump mechanism  (Read 2241 times)

February 22, 2013, 06:43:52 am

bbob203

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Deleting idle bump mechanism
« on: February 22, 2013, 06:43:52 am »
I don't like this thing I had part of it fall apart recently and I tried to re configure it so it wouldnt happen again and I frigged up my setting so I wanted to some ideas on how to lock out the lever and only the screw that is used on the older style pump to setmy idle.
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Reply #1February 22, 2013, 06:51:14 am

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Re: Deleting idle bump mechanism
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2013, 06:51:14 am »
The lever on the back of the pump stops against two adjustment bolts.  Tighten them both down so that the lever can't move and then you can remove the rod that goes from the cold start advance up to that lever. 

Reply #2February 22, 2013, 08:41:10 am

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Re: Deleting idle bump mechanism
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2013, 08:41:10 am »
I don't like this thing I had part of it fall apart recently and I tried to re configure it so it wouldnt happen again and I frigged up my setting so I wanted to some ideas on how to lock out the lever and only the screw that is used on the older style pump to setmy idle.

You can't go to only the residual pressure screw for idle control as the spring that used to do the idle speed isn't there anymore in the 109 style pumps.  There is a new idle spring that goes from the governor lever internally to a pivot connected to the "see-saw" on the outside of the pump.  So you are going to have to use at least some portion of the "new" style idle control.

As mentioned above, you can disable its function by locking out the position of the see-saw, however to make idle adjustments you will have to turn 2 screws each with their own lock nut rather than just the one on the idle control rod.  Kind of a pain.

The modern idle control is waaay better at keeping a constant idle speed than the old ones.  It is much easier to work with really.  I personally wouldn't get rid of it.
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Reply #3February 22, 2013, 04:09:39 pm

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Re: Deleting idle bump mechanism
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2013, 04:09:39 pm »
Opted to keep it all hooked up. Issue was I couldn't have my max fuel were I wanted it without having IDle screw out so much that it was liable to rattle out again. So I re adjusted the see saw part and couldn't get it running smooth but with tinkering I got it to idle better than it ever has and get my fuel screw where I wanted it.  :)
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