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67 Mercury Cougar, Diesel
by
scrounger
on 21 Jan, 2013 20:52
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#1
by
8v-of-fury
on 21 Jan, 2013 21:45
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#2
by
scrounger
on 21 Jan, 2013 21:54
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I saw this and thought of you Jeremy. Took a big leap to take a fairly stock car and cobble in a Mercedes Diesel.
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#3
by
8v-of-fury
on 21 Jan, 2013 21:56
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Honestly, the best thing that could have happened to it. I am a ford guy (obviously).. but they don't have a diesel as good as the OM617!
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#4
by
bajacalal
on 21 Jan, 2013 23:33
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Those are great little engines, I'm surprised you don't see more MB diesel transplants, at least where speed isn't the deciding factor.
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#5
by
8v-of-fury
on 21 Jan, 2013 23:40
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At least where speed isn't the deciding factor.
But they can easily do 300-375 ft.lbs which is comparable to a fairly modified V8, so I'd think itd do alright with moving the light Mercury around.
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#6
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CrazyAndy
on 26 Jan, 2013 17:59
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Those are great little engines, I'm surprised you don't see more MB diesel transplants, at least where speed isn't the deciding factor.
Hmmm good point. Just another candidate I can add to the board for if I do my dream swap of a diesel engine into a VW bus/van. A nice turbo I5, be it VA, Audi, or MB, would be great for pushing all of that boxyness. They did it with the W123, and it's heavier!
OM617 + anything. Has anyone put these in a boat?
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#7
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 27 Jan, 2013 20:31
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Those are great little engines, I'm surprised you don't see more MB diesel transplants, at least where speed isn't the deciding factor.
Hmmm good point. Just another candidate I can add to the board for if I do my dream swap of a diesel engine into a VW bus/van. A nice turbo I5, be it VA, Audi, or MB, would be great for pushing all of that boxyness. They did it with the W123, and it's heavier!
OM617 + anything. Has anyone put these in a boat?
its a SHAME that more companies didnt use OM617 engines..
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#8
by
scrounger
on 27 Jan, 2013 21:01
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Here is My Mercedes with its 617.952.
The valve cover is off to do a valve adjustment.
It is a real moose compared to the 1.6TD.
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#9
by
8v-of-fury
on 27 Jan, 2013 21:22
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I shoulda bought the Wagon I was looking at
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#10
by
scrounger
on 27 Jan, 2013 21:47
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These are definitely old school diesels. You roll up with the window down and they have that same clattery diesel sound. I can't hear the turbo though.
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#11
by
bajacalal
on 27 Jan, 2013 23:44
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I wish our engines were set up like these, a set screw for valve adjustments instead of shims.
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#12
by
rs899
on 30 Jan, 2013 07:57
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Yeah, there's a lot to like about the OM616 and OM617 engines. Easy valve adjustments. No worries timing chain and cast iron head. Mercedes chassis, as solid as they are, though, are a order of magnitude harder and more expensive to rebuild than the strut-based VW designs.
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#13
by
scrounger
on 30 Jan, 2013 09:15
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Hi,
An order of magnitude is that to your mind twice, squared or maybe 10x as high?
I have not seen anything to support this.
It does have a drive shaft and a differential which are parts built into the vw transmission. It is pre-electronic for the most part. It uses a vacuum pump that does most of the functions that electronics do including shifting the transmission running the door locks and heater controls.
I have done some maintenance to mine every part was relatively inexpensive. For instance changing the cable to the hood was 10 dollars for the cable assembly and 4 dollars more for a new lever as mine broke. It takes 8 quarts of oil guess that is more. I put a new 6 dollar gasket on the cam cover when I adjusted the valves.
The fuel injectors and glow plugs are pretty much identical price points to the VW IDI.
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#14
by
theman53
on 30 Jan, 2013 09:18
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The vacuum leaks are horrible on the Mercs, maybe more so on the gassers. I maintained an 82 300D for about 6 months and it seemed most everything I bought for it was "just a bit more" than VW. I never had anything less expensive than VW, but look at it realistically...VW were cheap economy cars and a Mercedes is a Mercedes.