AAZ-50 degree vanagon oil pan baffle-level question?

[tdihuntdawg]

hey vanagoners regardless of oil filter,cooler,lines etc how much oil do you actually run in the pan ?  Also is anybody  running a baffle? It seems that a hard right hand turn would allow  oil to slosh up on the rotating assembly. I've got some ideas for a baffle that would allow oil to drain yet form a pocket to keep oil from sloshing up. keeping oil in pan and  around pickup would be good insurance especially in a syncro which might see extreme angles at times.  it would not  to be near the crank at all  but in the pan just above oil level and notched out for pickup and dipstick. thank-you GLEANERDAWG

[Gizmoman]

Probably not much help but I don't have a pan on my 50 degree 1.9 Vanagon - not sure if it's needed.

[Syncroincity]

I haven't drained mine yet for the first time to see what the pan is actually holding (minus filters & hoses which I have plenty of)... no help, sorry. I am running the AAZ windage tray, your motor should have come with one, which reduces direct oil-to-rotating mass contact.
If you don't have one, they're available at diesel-friendly suppliers like AutohausAZ.

[burn_your_money]

It's the same windage tray as found on the 2.0 ABA is it not?

[Syncroincity]

It's the same windage tray as found on the 2.0 ABA is it not?

I *think* so... the oil pans (for cars) are identical, so it should be the same tray.

[libbydiesel]

I've used the AAZ windage tray on a couple vanagon installs.

[tdihuntdawg]

Thanks for the replys, I checked the other day no windage tray but I did have the 36mm TD pump.

[Gizmoman]

Paolo,
As I'm a bit new to all this stuff, I did some googling and ran across this:
http://www.autotech.com/product/oil-pans-pumps/10-115-220K.html?fromcat= - even comes with longer pan bolts.

Hard to believe the crank counterweights churning oil can actually reduce HP, but from what I've read it does. I didn't have one before but I will get one now.

I wonder if there is any other "bad" effect other than the loss of HP? Could the oil get so sloshed around that it stopped pumping for a sec?

[Syncroincity]

http://www.hansdieselparts.com/037115220BOilPanBaffle.htm



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[bridgetroll13]

Paolo,
As I'm a bit new to all this stuff, I did some googling and ran across this:
http://www.autotech.com/product/oil-pans-pumps/10-115-220K.html?fromcat= - even comes with longer pan bolts.

Hard to believe the crank counterweights churning oil can actually reduce HP, but from what I've read it does. I didn't have one before but I will get one now.

I wonder if there is any other "bad" effect other than the loss of HP? Could the oil get so sloshed around that it stopped pumping for a sec?

If the oil gets picked up by the reciprocating mass of the crank and rods it can become emulsified with air and lose some of its lubricative properties. It could starve the pickup and it does reduce horsepower. It is common practice in "performance" applications to employ a crank scraper as well.

http://www.crank-scrapers.com/VW.html

Erik

'82 Westy, AAZ, AAP 5 spd

[Gizmoman]

Makes sense - thanks for the explanation.
I'll be adding one to my rebuild parts list.