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Reply #15October 30, 2012, 10:22:23 am

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Re: who's got a picture of oil drain line setup for an AAZ Vanagon
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2012, 10:22:23 am »
I don't really understand your question.  The block drain port is way above the oil level.  If there were any oil in the line it would fall down to the pan port.  Any crankcase pressure would be equal on either side of the oil in the drain line below the block port and there would not be any pool of oil in the upper part of the drain line. 

Never mind.  Makes sense to me how you just described it's operation.


Reply #16October 30, 2012, 07:33:31 pm

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Re: who's got a picture of oil drain line setup for an AAZ Vanagon
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2012, 07:33:31 pm »
I've done a couple K03 Vanagon installs, but both on 1.6TDs.  On both I made a flange and a tube coming off it pointing at the port on the pan.  That allowed PERFECT clocking.  I just bent the supply to match.  I've looked for pics, but haven't found one yet.

A drain flange would be ideal, but the T2 drain is actually threaded, there's no bolt holes for a flange, note the adapter right where the line comes out of the turbo. There is space for a flange, I'd just have to drill & tap the bolt holes.

I'm searching for my original block drain banjo right now, I want to open it back up and use it to drain the oil catch can... this thing is pumping oil out at about a quart every 40 miles.  :(
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Reply #17November 02, 2012, 08:57:42 pm

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Re: who's got a picture of oil drain line setup for an AAZ Vanagon
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2012, 08:57:42 pm »
Here is my setup which I really have no clue as to what it is besides a K03 Turbo. I have never seen the need to have the drain hose go to the oil pan since it looks all down hill to me. This photo is a little deceiving as its a little off angle and it does look like it goes up hill a tiny bit. But I assure you that it does not - what manifold and drain hose am I running? Can anyone tell from this photo? 


OilDrain by RockOcean.com, on Flickr

Reply #18November 02, 2012, 10:02:15 pm

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Re: who's got a picture of oil drain line setup for an AAZ Vanagon
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2012, 10:02:15 pm »
Here is a more accurate photo of the angle of my oil drain line:


OilDrainAAZvanagonLevel by RockOcean.com, on Flickr

Reply #19November 02, 2012, 10:47:36 pm

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Re: who's got a picture of oil drain line setup for an AAZ Vanagon
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2012, 10:47:36 pm »
Rockocean, I'd be less concerned about the block drain and more concerned about the angle of the drain fitting on your turbo.  15° out of vertical is the max for the drain.  Yours is 35° because you didn't clock it for the vanagon installation angle.  Your turbo will have a shortened life that way.

Reply #20November 03, 2012, 12:57:18 am

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Re: who's got a picture of oil drain line setup for an AAZ Vanagon
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2012, 12:57:18 am »
Here's my set-up with a K14


Took a bit of work to make a tube, weld it to the old threaded end I cut off the original straight tube and get it bent just right but it's at 6:00 with the engine at 50 degrees.
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Reply #21November 03, 2012, 01:24:01 am

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« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2012, 01:24:01 am »
K03 is easier to deal with than the K14.  The K03 uses a little flange instead of the thread-in fitting on the K14 and there is more room.  I've made a couple vanagon K03 drains.

Reply #22November 03, 2012, 03:44:44 am

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Re: who's got a picture of oil drain line setup for an AAZ Vanagon
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2012, 03:44:44 am »
Here is my setup which I really have no clue as to what it is besides a K03 Turbo. I have never seen the need to have the drain hose go to the oil pan since it looks all down hill to me. This photo is a little deceiving as its a little off angle and it does look like it goes up hill a tiny bit. But I assure you that it does not - what manifold and drain hose am I running? Can anyone tell from this photo? 


OilDrain by RockOcean.com, on Flickr



Looks like stock AAZ exhaust manifold, and block drain.
You get off easy by using the aftermarket-design engine mount, plenty of room to play... this was designed to use a TDI manifold,
which hangs the turbo underneath the manifold.
JC McCavitt
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'98 Jetta Wolfie
'04 Passat Variant GLS 4Mo 5MT

Reply #23November 03, 2012, 04:03:02 am

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Re: who's got a picture of oil drain line setup for an AAZ Vanagon
« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2012, 04:03:02 am »
Here's a cheap windage tray;

http://www.hansdieselparts.com/037115220BOilPanBaffle.htm


It's Prothe, but I wouldn't worry too much about a part like this.  ;)
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Reply #24June 16, 2013, 08:30:19 pm

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Re: who's got a picture of oil drain line setup for an AAZ Vanagon
« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2013, 08:30:19 pm »
The block drain is still downhill from the turbo in a vanagon when using the AAZ exhaust manifold.  Teeing into the block drain would have a benefit.  Because the vanagon turbo oil return port on the pan is at below the oil level, there is some potential risk that excess crankcase pressure could push oil from the pan up the return line and past the turbo seals.  Teeing to the block drain would remove that possibility.

Sorry to dust off an old thread but I am looking for what the subject says a picture of this oil return set up for A AAZ in a Vanagon with the K03 turbo. Anyone have one thanks!

Reply #25June 16, 2013, 10:56:36 pm

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Re: who's got a picture of oil drain line setup for an AAZ Vanagon
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2013, 10:56:36 pm »
The block drain is still downhill from the turbo in a vanagon when using the AAZ exhaust manifold.  Teeing into the block drain would have a benefit.  Because the vanagon turbo oil return port on the pan is at below the oil level, there is some potential risk that excess crankcase pressure could push oil from the pan up the return line and past the turbo seals.  Teeing to the block drain would remove that possibility.

Sorry to dust off an old thread but I am looking for what the subject says a picture of this oil return set up for A AAZ in a Vanagon with the K03 turbo. Anyone have one thanks!

I believe a K14 is better suited to a Vanagon and possibly why there are more photos available with that setup. As has been mentioned though, there have been some K03's at 50 though. Sorry I can't help with a photo.
Jim W - 82 Vanagon Westy - AAZ 1.9, Mild head port, Cummins Holset HE200WE turbo, Frozen Boost WAIC, 10" Charge-pipe intake, Ball bearing IM shaft, Giles Pump, 215/70R16, AAP 5 speed Trans. 22 lbs max boost

Reply #26June 17, 2013, 12:21:38 am

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Re: who's got a picture of oil drain line setup for an AAZ Vanagon
« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2013, 12:21:38 am »
Here's a cheap windage tray;

http://www.hansdieselparts.com/037115220BOilPanBaffle.htm


It's Prothe, but I wouldn't worry too much about a part like this.  ;)

have you seen the price of a real one?? what kind of cheap assed crap is he selling??? seriously.. is it tin foil? no way id try it on a vanagon since the pan is a motor mount.. id test it on something easy to change when it leaks...

Reply #27June 17, 2013, 08:59:50 am

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Re: who's got a picture of oil drain line setup for an AAZ Vanagon
« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2013, 08:59:50 am »
Does this help?
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Reply #28June 17, 2013, 10:27:54 am

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« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2013, 10:27:54 am »
That is a old picture (close to 10 years ago) of one that I made.  It worked but I would not recommend using copper.  I didn't use that drain long enough for it to happen, but it can work harden and crack. 

Reply #29June 18, 2013, 01:37:12 am

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« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2013, 01:37:12 am »
I see you've clocked the wastegate to point straight down, did you have any issues lowering the mount that far?   I've got a mount built, but am wrestling with the drain and clocking the wastegate with my K14 from a 91 eco-diesel going into an 82 stock diesel Vanagon.

Will

Here's my set-up with a K14


Took a bit of work to make a tube, weld it to the old threaded end I cut off the original straight tube and get it bent just right but it's at 6:00 with the engine at 50 degrees.
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