Auto transmission into 91 jetta na

[bbob203]

my girlfriend refuses to drive a vehicle with a manual transmission. So she will only drive a diesel car with an auto trans. What all mods would I have to do if I wanted to put one in. would a 4 speed from and mk3 work in my 91 na? I think they had 4 speeds. I don't know $h17 about auto stuff. what all would I need?

[rs899]

I would think about a new girlfriend....you may not be compatible....

Seriously, I really don't know but since an automatic consumes maybe 5-10 horsepower, there's nothing left to move the car.  I suppose she wants A/C, too?

[CRSMP5]

a diesel rabbit/kubvan.... = 65 max with no ac... add 500-1000lbs... ac... might as well leve all 4 tires flat with no air in your current car to see how it will be...

electric auto like mk3-mk4... 3k$ to stealership for NEW one as no such thing as good used one as tey are handgrenades with pin pulled by 80k...

so no diesel for hr.. i agree she must want replaced...

[bbob203]

she actually can deal with no ac because she likes overly hot weather. ill try to further prove to her how stupid auto is.

[R.O.R-2.0]

she actually can deal with no ac because she likes overly hot weather. ill try to further prove to her how stupid auto is.

just get a crappy trans, so you can swap it in 10k miles..

then do it again in 10k miles..

then she might get the hint.. if not, get a new g/f...

[bbob203]

she actually can deal with no ac because she likes overly hot weather. ill try to further prove to her how stupid auto is.

just get a crappy trans, so you can swap it in 10k miles..

then do it again in 10k miles..

then she might get the hint.. if not, get a new g/f...

I've thouggt about sabotage.

[R.O.R-2.0]

she actually can deal with no ac because she likes overly hot weather. ill try to further prove to her how stupid auto is.

just get a crappy trans, so you can swap it in 10k miles..

then do it again in 10k miles..

then she might get the hint.. if not, get a new g/f...

I've thouggt about sabotage.

its not sabotage tho.. its the way of the VW auto trans, even with 52hp attached to it..

[JessaBug]

Not entirely true. Some of the late 80's/early 90's auto transmissions actually were work horses. My FIL's '91 Vanagon had an auto in it. 260k on the original trans...and 60k of that it was spewing trans fluid. When it started shifting funny, you put in some more fluid. Then it was smooth again for a few months. I was highly impressed with it...though it was a 3-speed so it absolutely screamed on the highway.

Both of his vanagons now ('84 camper with a 2.2 Subaru swap and an '87 syncro with a 1Z swap) are manuals though. Pretty funny to drive behind them...giant box and you certainly see it move when its shifted.

[R.O.R-2.0]

he was not talking of using an old 010 auto trans tho..

they were talking about using the later mk3/4 trans.. the electronic 4 spd pile of garbage..

the 010 3 spd trannies DID NOT DIE..

they didnt have overdrive either tho..

[JamesT]

Not entirely true. Some of the late 80's/early 90's auto transmissions actually were work horses. My FIL's '91 Vanagon had an auto in it. 260k on the original trans...and 60k of that it was spewing trans fluid. When it started shifting funny, you put in some more fluid. Then it was smooth again for a few months. I was highly impressed with it...though it was a 3-speed so it absolutely screamed on the highway.

Both of his vanagons now ('84 camper with a 2.2 Subaru swap and an '87 syncro with a 1Z swap) are manuals though. Pretty funny to drive behind them...giant box and you certainly see it move when its shifted.

The VW 3-speeds last forever. The Vanagon box is based on the auto found in type 3's starting around 1967. Not the most modern beast, but it does the trick.
The auto from my rabbit also seemed to go on forever, until I got sick of the slushbox feel and no overdrive. Sadly, I'm back to that sort of highway howl because of the 4-speed manual that I put it in on a whim. That being said, I think it would work well with an N/A because of the lack of overdrive. You're going to need to prevent it from kicking down somehow (mine used to rev the 1.6 gasser to over 6k if I pinned it), but it should pull alright around town.

[RabbitJockey]

The vanagons and rabbit trans were basically the same, even Audi used them,  I think Audi even had a 4 speed version.  I had an na auto rabbit I loved it, it didn't seem down on power to me at all and consistently got 40mpg.  I quite miss it actually

[bbob203]

The vanagons and rabbit trans were basically the same, even Audi used them,  I think Audi even had a 4 speed version.  I had an na auto rabbit I loved it, it didn't seem down on power to me at all and consistently got 40mpg.  I quite miss it actually

what transmission was it? it prob wouldn't work in my mk2 though cuz the mounts are different eh?

[theman53]

An manual to auto swap is much more difficult than a gf swap...unless you have kids with her, then it might be a toss up.

Why cannot she try to learn?

[bbob203]

An manual to auto swap is much more difficult than a gf swap...unless you have kids with her, then it might be a toss up.

Why cannot she try to learn?

well she sort of can drive it. But she has been in a few car accidents.. bad ones. so having 1 more thing to think about while driving kinda freaks her out.. well not kinda.. a lot.

[Dakotakid]

Sounds like the girl is rather maxxed-out just getting through her day.
Yes, America's current crop of young women certainly is impressive isn't it?

The original diesel 010 would run a long time if you changed out the ATF on a frequent basis (I got 435,000 miles out of mine and it was still going).

But, the back-of-engine placement of the 40 lb. starter constantly subjected the starter to very high exhaust pipe temps and the starters would crap out. And, these were very expensive starters to deal with.