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anyone got a starter?
by
wdkingery
on 17 Nov, 2011 05:42
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My 1.6l me code diesel's starter is getting kinda sllooowww (and with 2000 cold crankin amps i dont think its a battery issue)
And autozone wants damn $100!
Shipping woukd be outrageous i reckon.
Local? Richmond va
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#1
by
lovinthedeez
on 17 Nov, 2011 06:26
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pm sent.
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#2
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 17 Nov, 2011 11:59
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told you the batteries were un-necessary..
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#3
by
damac
on 17 Nov, 2011 19:42
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This reminds me, do they make better starters now than came with these cars originally? I got a new battery and put an extra ground directly to starter bolt and it doesn't really seem like the car spins over that fast. For all I know its an original starter to the car at 200,000 miles.
On my old f250 you can put on newer gear reduction starters and with the same batteries they turn the truck over much faster than stock.
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#4
by
rabbitman
on 17 Nov, 2011 19:57
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This reminds me, do they make better starters now than came with these cars originally? I got a new battery and put an extra ground directly to starter bolt and it doesn't really seem like the car spins over that fast. For all I know its an original starter to the car at 200,000 miles.
On my old f250 you can put on newer gear reduction starters and with the same batteries they turn the truck over much faster than stock.
I think someone said the VR6 starter works, it's got a gear reduction. Otherwise yours probably just needs a little rebuild like brushes, bushings and and the commutator cleaned.
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#5
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 18 Nov, 2011 09:26
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This reminds me, do they make better starters now than came with these cars originally? I got a new battery and put an extra ground directly to starter bolt and it doesn't really seem like the car spins over that fast. For all I know its an original starter to the car at 200,000 miles.
On my old f250 you can put on newer gear reduction starters and with the same batteries they turn the truck over much faster than stock.
I think someone waid the VR6 starter works, it's got a gear reduction. Otherwise yours probably just needs a little rebuild like brushes, bushings and and the commutator cleaned.
the ABA starter is gear reduction too, and designed to work with an 020 trans.. i doubt it has enough balls to turn over a diesel very fast tho..
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#6
by
burn_your_money
on 18 Nov, 2011 14:28
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Diesel MK2 starters (the ones with 3 mounting bolts) are gear reduction and they fit a mk1 just fine.
Did you do a voltage drop test to make sure your cables are all good?
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#7
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 18 Nov, 2011 19:31
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Diesel MK2 starters (the ones with 3 mounting bolts) are gear reduction and they fit a mk1 just fine.
Did you do a voltage drop test to make sure your cables are all good?
you sure? i thought they were direct drive? i guess ive never really payed attention that much.. just assumed they were the same layout as a mk1 starter..
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#8
by
burn_your_money
on 19 Nov, 2011 20:23
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I've taken them apart and they have a 4:1 or 3:1 (I forget) planetary gear reduction.
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#9
by
maxfax
on 19 Nov, 2011 21:52
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the ABA starter is gear reduction too, and designed to work with an 020 trans.. i doubt it has enough balls to turn over a diesel very fast tho..
They will actually start the diesel just fine even in sub zero temps, but they don't live very long when doing so..

The MK2 starter as Tyler mentioned is the way to go I think...
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#10
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 20 Nov, 2011 12:13
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I've taken them apart and they have a 4:1 or 3:1 (I forget) planetary gear reduction.
and mk1 is direct drive?
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#11
by
maxfax
on 20 Nov, 2011 13:42
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I've taken them apart and they have a 4:1 or 3:1 (I forget) planetary gear reduction.
and mk1 is direct drive?
You got it...
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#12
by
burn_your_money
on 21 Nov, 2011 14:28
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I've taken them apart and they have a 4:1 or 3:1 (I forget) planetary gear reduction.
and mk1 is direct drive?
And early Mk2 is direct drive.
I am pretty sure that once they switched to the 3 bolt mounting style for the starter they switched to the gear reduction.
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#13
by
8v-of-fury
on 21 Nov, 2011 19:28
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I had the mk2 gear reduction diesel starter on my 1.7 gasser when i had it in my 84. It spun that motor sooo fast..
Now I have it on my 1.6na and it still does the job just fine with over 300k on it.
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#14
by
maxfax
on 21 Nov, 2011 21:49
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And early Mk2 is direct drive.
I wonder how early.. I had a couple '85s and an '86 that had the gear reduction starter.. Not to say that someone else didn't already change them..