anyone got a starter?

[wdkingery]

My 1.6l me code diesel's starter is getting kinda sllooowww (and with 2000 cold crankin amps i dont think its a battery issue)
And autozone wants damn $100!
Shipping woukd be outrageous i reckon.
Local? Richmond va

[lovinthedeez]

pm sent.

[R.O.R-2.0]

told you the batteries were un-necessary..

[damac]

This reminds me, do they make better starters now than came with these cars originally?  I got a new battery and put an extra ground directly to starter bolt and it doesn't really seem like the car spins over that fast.  For all I know its an original starter to the car at 200,000 miles.

On my old f250 you can put on newer gear reduction starters and with the same batteries they turn the truck over much faster than stock.

[rabbitman]

This reminds me, do they make better starters now than came with these cars originally?  I got a new battery and put an extra ground directly to starter bolt and it doesn't really seem like the car spins over that fast.  For all I know its an original starter to the car at 200,000 miles.

On my old f250 you can put on newer gear reduction starters and with the same batteries they turn the truck over much faster than stock.

I think someone said the VR6 starter works, it's got a gear reduction. Otherwise yours probably just needs a little rebuild like brushes, bushings and and the commutator cleaned.

[R.O.R-2.0]

This reminds me, do they make better starters now than came with these cars originally?  I got a new battery and put an extra ground directly to starter bolt and it doesn't really seem like the car spins over that fast.  For all I know its an original starter to the car at 200,000 miles.

On my old f250 you can put on newer gear reduction starters and with the same batteries they turn the truck over much faster than stock.

I think someone waid the VR6 starter works, it's got a gear reduction. Otherwise yours probably just needs a little rebuild like brushes, bushings and and the commutator cleaned.

the ABA starter is gear reduction too, and designed to work with an 020 trans.. i doubt it has enough balls to turn over a diesel very fast tho..

[burn_your_money]

Diesel MK2 starters (the ones with 3 mounting bolts) are gear reduction and they fit a mk1 just fine.

Did you do a voltage drop test to make sure your cables are all good?

[R.O.R-2.0]

Diesel MK2 starters (the ones with 3 mounting bolts) are gear reduction and they fit a mk1 just fine.

Did you do a voltage drop test to make sure your cables are all good?

you sure? i thought they were direct drive? i guess ive never really payed attention that much.. just assumed they were the same layout as a mk1 starter..

[burn_your_money]

I've taken them apart and they have a 4:1 or 3:1 (I forget) planetary gear reduction.

[maxfax]

the ABA starter is gear reduction too, and designed to work with an 020 trans.. i doubt it has enough balls to turn over a diesel very fast tho..

They will actually start the diesel just fine even in sub zero temps, but they don't live very long when doing so.. 

The MK2 starter as Tyler mentioned is the way to go I think...

[R.O.R-2.0]

I've taken them apart and they have a 4:1 or 3:1 (I forget) planetary gear reduction.

and mk1 is direct drive?

[maxfax]

I've taken them apart and they have a 4:1 or 3:1 (I forget) planetary gear reduction.

and mk1 is direct drive?

You got it...

[burn_your_money]

I've taken them apart and they have a 4:1 or 3:1 (I forget) planetary gear reduction.

and mk1 is direct drive?

And early Mk2 is direct drive.

I am pretty sure that once they switched to the 3 bolt mounting style for the starter they switched to the gear reduction.

[8v-of-fury]

I had the mk2 gear reduction diesel starter on my 1.7 gasser when i had it in my 84. It spun that motor sooo fast..

Now I have it on my 1.6na and it still does the job just fine with over 300k on it.

[maxfax]

And early Mk2 is direct drive.

I wonder how early..  I had a couple '85s and an '86 that had the gear reduction starter..  Not to say that someone else didn't already change them..